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3/8: Uncommon Wrath: How Caesar and Cato’s Deadly Rivalry Destroyed the Roman Republic by Josiah Osgood (Author)

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🗓️ 11 February 2023

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3/8: Uncommon Wrath: How Caesar and Cato’s Deadly Rivalry Destroyed the Roman Republic by Josiah Osgood (Author)

https://www.amazon.com/Uncommon-Wrath-Rivalry-Destroyed-Republic/dp/1541620119

In Uncommon Wrath, historian Josiah Osgood tells the story of how the political rivalry between Julius Caesar and Marcus Cato precipitated the end of the Roman Republic. As the champions of two dominant but distinct visions for Rome, Caesar and Cato each represented qualities that had made the Republic strong, but their ideological differences entrenched into enmity and mutual fear. The intensity of their collective factions became a tribal divide, hampering their ability to make good decisions and undermining democratic government. The men’s toxic polarity meant that despite their shared devotion to the Republic, they pushed it into civil war.

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Uncommon Wrath, how Caesar and Kader's deadly rivalry destroyed the Roman Republic. We

0:46.1

now begin the new rivalry with a new player. His name is Pumpy. He's a man whose was successful

0:53.8

under the dictator, Sulla, and is now seen as a great general. He wants to triumph. Pumpy

1:01.2

looks like a man who is disposed towards Caesar's part of the understanding of the rival

1:07.2

rape. Strength, military will, a military success. The wounds on your body are only in

1:13.1

front. The only noble ruins, wounds you can have. Professor, who is Pumpy to Caesar?

1:19.5

Who is Pumpy to Kato at this point? What does he represent to them?

1:24.5

Pumpy is a major personality. He really was the number one man in Rome at this point in

1:34.2

time when the rivalry began between Caesar and Kato. He'd gotten his start quite young.

1:41.3

He'd sort of broken all the rules and had risen to the top in civil war. Then he fought

1:48.4

these various wars. He fought against piracy, which was plaguing the Mediterranean. Then

1:54.4

he went to the east and sort of became the Roman Alexander the Great. He actually came

2:00.5

back to Rome claiming that he had the cloak of Alexander himself. He was going to wear

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