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3/4: For the Love of Mars: A Human History of the Red Planet Hardcover – May 18, 2023 by Matthew Shindell (Author)

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🗓️ 15 July 2023

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3/4: For the Love of Mars: A Human History of the Red Planet Hardcover – May 18, 2023 by Matthew Shindell (Author)

https://www.amazon.com/Love-Mars-Human-History-Planet/dp/0226821897/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

Mars and its secrets have fascinated and mystified humans since ancient times. Due to its vivid color and visibility, its geologic kinship with Earth, and its potential as our best hope for settlement, Mars embodies everything that inspires us about space and exploration. For the Love of Mars surveys the red planet’s place in the human imagination, beginning with ancient astrologers and skywatchers and ending in our present moment of exploration and virtual engagement.

National Air and Space Museum curator Matthew Shindell describes how historical figures across eras and around the world have made sense of this mysterious planet. We meet Mayan astrologer priests who incorporated Mars into seasonal calendars and religious ceremonies; Babylonian astrologers who discerned bad omens; figures of the Scientific Revolution who struggled to comprehend it as a world; Victorian astronomers who sought signs of intelligent life; and twentieth- and twenty-first-century scientists who have established a technological presence on its surface. Along the way, we encounter writers and artists from each of these periods who take readers and viewers along on imagined journeys to Mars.

By focusing on the diverse human stories behind the telescopes and behind the robots we know and love, Shindell shows how Mars exploration has evolved in ways that have also expanded knowledge about other facets of the universe. Captained by an engaging and erudite expert, For the Love of Marsis a captivating voyage through time and space for anyone curious about Curiosity and the red planet.

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This is CBS I Am The World. I'm John Bachelors with Matthew Schindel. The space historian,

0:11.0

curator at the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum, a really cool job, and the book

0:18.0

is really cool. For the love of Mars, it's about human history and the Martian planet,

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projections, interpretations, and now science. Matt Descartes died 1650. Christian Hoygens,

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Giovanni Cassini died 1712. Isaac Newton died 1726. These men, Leonardo Euler of all physics,

0:43.0

these men put together what we understand to be science. Following Galileo's groundbreaking

0:50.0

martyrdom to what he saw through the telescope, all of this is going on simultaneously

0:57.0

with them inheriting the old world. Were they seen as rebellious of the ancients when they

1:04.0

provided these interpretations of observation and mathematics? I think yes and no, right?

1:11.0

Galileo didn't see himself necessarily as being rebellious. He thought he was still

1:17.0

working within that same tradition, but trying to modernize it based on new observations,

1:25.0

new mathematics. I don't want to try to get too deep into what Galileo really thought he was

1:31.0

doing, but at least this is the way that he would describe it in letters that he wrote to his patrons.

1:38.0

Galileo's observations of the moon certainly gave people a reason to think that there

1:44.0

was something different going on in the heavens than what they inherited from Aristotle.

1:52.0

There did seem to be the need for some new ways of thinking about the solar system, but the truth

2:01.0

is that there were multiple models of the universe circulating at that time, each kind of not

2:11.0

seeming perfect, not being the obvious choice for what was happening. You had the old

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Aristotelian model, the Tomeic model, with the Earth at the center. You then had

2:23.0

Tycho Brahe's model where you had the Earth at the center, but everything else but the moon

2:30.0

orbiting around the sun. Then finally you had this Copernican model, which was great, mathematically,

2:37.0

but it still didn't really line up perfectly with observation. We have this period

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