Now, all right, welcome back to Counterpoint.

Some Ryan Grimm of the Intercept here with Emily Jisinski of the Federalist's a quick

programming note.

At some point during this show, I'm going to force Emily to define woke.

Bring it on.

Not now, because you're sort of...

All right, what's going on?

I'm too ready.

I've had too much coffee.

Anyway, you guys should Google that one if you haven't seen this viral clip going around.

But yeah, I will get her on this.

I don't think she knows what it is.

I've never heard of it, actually.

How would you define woke if you had to...

If you were put on the spot?

If someone was to define wokeness, I would say that it's unfortunately a nebulous definition

because we have no consensus on what it means.

It meant something very specific to the left at a point in time.

It was then co-opted by the right and has basically become a catch-all for political

correctness.

And as essentially...

I think the correct definition is it's a stand-in for all the things that annoy me.

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