3.12 Hedonism to Healing with Jordan Stephens

Saturn Returns with Caggie

Caggie Dunlop

Education, Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Religion & Spirituality, Self-improvement

4.8 • 892 Ratings

🗓️ 21 June 2021

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Actor, musician and poet Jordan Stephens joins Caggie in today's episode, to discuss creativity, mental health and how we begin to craft our authentic identity in our late twenties. Like Caggie, Jordan found fame at a young age as part of pop duo Rizzle Kicks, and describes his early twenties as hedonistic and self-destructive. They discuss how and why we self-sabotage, Jordan's path to sobriety and the wonderfully simple principles to live by for a happier and healthier mind and life. --- Follow or subscribe to "Saturn Returns" for future episodes, where we explore the transformative impact of Saturn's return with inspiring guests and thought-provoking discussions. Follow Caggie Dunlop on Instagram to stay updated on her personal journey and you can find Saturn Returns on Instagram, YouTube and TikTok. Order the Saturn Returns Book. Join our community newsletter here. Find all things Saturn Returns, offerings and more here.

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0:00.0	Hello everyone and welcome to Saturn Returns with me Kagi Dunlop. This is a
0:09.9	podcast that aims to bring clarity during transitional times where there can be confusion and doubt.
0:19.5	I just kept ruining my life basically. I would get into these hedonistic spirals whenever something
0:23.9	emotionally challenging would come up in my life and it just went too far and I just I kept
0:29.7	falling in love and breaking hearts including my own.
0:35.0	Today I'm joined by musician, actor and poet Jordan Stevens.
0:40.0	Jordan is about to release new music and you may have also seen him recently
0:44.2	appearing on TV in May Martin's amazing series feel good. As we explore in this
0:50.6	episode Jordan was very young when he came to fame and he and I used to
0:54.6	know each other back in the day when he was in Rizzlekicks and I was in Made in
0:58.4	Chelsea but talking to him now he is 29 and it seems his internal and external worlds have changed a lot.
1:06.4	I guess mine have to. I found him incredibly reflective, emotionally intelligent, thoughtful and aware.
1:14.0	In this episode we discuss the impact of fame
1:18.0	through both our experiences.
1:20.0	We explore hedonism, sobriety,
1:22.0	how important it is to pay attention to our bodies,
1:25.8	self-destruction in relationships and in life, self-reflecting, and the art of poetry. Just as a warning, we do discuss some tough stuff including depression, alcohol and drug abuse
1:38.0	and we touch on self-harm, so please do take care of these subjects are triggering for you.
1:43.2	Before we get into this episode with Jordan let's hear from our
1:47.1	astrological guide Nora. We've all met an aspect of Saturn during a lifetime. We have.
1:57.5	Glassically, it's the father, grandfather, big brother, or any overly authoritarian, masculine parental figure growing up.
2:07.6	Then later is the school principal or our main teacher for the year, And as you become increasingly aware of society,
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