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History in the Bible

3.12 Earliest Christians IV: Conflicts in John’s Community

History in the Bible

Garry Stevens

History, Christianity, Judaism, Bible, Religion & Spirituality

4.6693 Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2021

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

I finish my discussion of Revelation, cheekily asking if the book implies that only gays will go to heaven. The Greek East only grudgingly accepted the book. The book sulked in the shadows of Christianity until the 19th century, incomprehensible and unwanted. British Protestants re-interpreted the book as the veriest key to the whole Bible. That obsession took root in North America.
I also peruse the amusing Acts of John, and the intriguing three letters attributed to John.

Theme music "Inspiring Teaser" by Rafael Krux, https://filmmusic.io/song/5672-inspiring-teaser, license https://filmmusic.io/standard-license.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Giday, I'm Gary Stevens.

0:09.9

And welcome to the third season of the History in the Bible podcast.

0:15.2

In this final season, I explore how the Jews and the Christians constructed new religions when they were sent

0:23.9

spinning into the void after the destruction of the temple. All of the history, about all of the

0:31.4

books beyond the Bible.

0:40.1

Episode 3.12 Earliest Christians Part 4

0:42.9

Conflicts in John's Community

0:45.7

In the last episode, I introduced the Joannine community

0:51.0

and the Zany Book of Revelation.

0:57.0

Revelation is like no other book in the New Testament. For its most part, revelation is a perfectly typical Jewish apocalypse. As in these Jewish works,

1:07.3

a worthy receives a revelation mediated by angels.

1:16.4

He is transported to a heavenly reality that we mortals cannot see.

1:21.3

The angels present the worthy with a vision of the end of times.

1:31.3

From earliest times, Christians believed that revelation was written as a response to Roman attacks on the early Jesus clubs. The early church fathers could not agree on which persecution.

1:36.3

A few early fathers thought that to be the persecution of the Roman Emperor Nero in the 60s. Other fathers believed that the book was penned in response to the persecution of the crazy

1:50.0

Emperor Domitian in the 90s.

1:53.0

Modern opinion is that Revelation was not written during any time of persecution.

1:59.0

Until recently, Revelation was viewed as a Christian book full of Jewish apocalyptic imagery.

2:05.6

The trend is now to see it as a thoroughly Jewish document that some Christian has likely reworked.

2:12.6

I mean, think about it.

2:15.6

This is not a book about the Christian Jesus.

2:19.8

Revelation says nothing about Jesus' earthly life, death and resurrection.

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