Hello everyone and welcome to Satam returns with me Kaggi Dunlop.

This is a podcast that aims to bring clarity during transitional times where there can be confusion and doubt.

I can say what I want to say, I can be as vulnerable as I want to be, and the crazy thing

which people don't expect is the more vulnerable you are the more

you put yourself out there the more successful you become. Today I am joined by the very

impressive Stephen Bartlett for those of you who don't know, Stephen is the latest and the youngest ever

dragon on Dragon's Den. He is 28 years old. He is an author of Happy, Sexy Millionaire. He has his own podcast, Dari of a CEO, and he is the founder of Social Chain, which he started in his bedroom in Manchester.

I've been a fan of his podcast and he is just such an interesting person.

I wanted to talk to him because I wanted to know what kind of character he was and to discuss how he got to where he's got in life.

As you will tell from this episode he doesn't hang around. He is on a mission and there was so many takeaways from this conversation

that I had on a personal level afterwards. So anyway I will leave it for you

guys to listen I hope you enjoy it but before we get into this episode, let's check in with Nora,

our astrological guide for the season.

The draught to succeed in astrology is interestingly enough not represented by Saturn or Saturn return or its transit, but more so by the sun and the Mars in our birth charts.

When we turn 21, our sun sign, which represents our identity and relates to the solar plexis,

the sun at the stage matures.

Around that time, we're starting to explore ourselves in a less angsty way.

We start to explore more who we are, who we want to become when we grow up, which in turn then does really to our first sat in return because astrologically we grow up after a sat in return.

Often this need to know ourselves and do something productive with it provides the drive to go after our goals and anything we identify with, especially around the age of 20, 21, 22.

Then as we near our Saturn return at the age of 28,

our willpower, which is represented by Mars,

starts to shift into a more mature state

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