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The Addicted Mind Podcast

296: Rebroadcast – Treating Addiction and Breaking Free From a Narcissistic Family Structure with Julie Hall

The Addicted Mind Podcast

Duane Osterlind, LMFT

Health & Fitness, Medicine, Mental Health

4.8621 Ratings

🗓️ 21 August 2024

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Everyone has a level of healthy narcissism. We all see things through our lens to some degree. The narcissist, however, has pathological levels of self-involvement and he or she experiences fundamental developmental deficits early on in life.

According to author and speaker, Julie Hall, addiction is a huge part of the narcissistic family system. There is a pattern of depression, anger, confusion with family rifts, and alienation, and there is no awareness of what the core issue is. 

In her book, The Narcissist In Your Life: Recognizing the Patterns and Learning to Break Free, Julie breaks down the pattern of a narcissistic personality disorder.

Narcissism vs. Narcissistic Personality Disorder

Everyone has a level of healthy narcissism. We all see things through our lens to some degree. The narcissist, however, has pathological levels of self-involvement and he or she experiences fundamental developmental deficits early on in life. 

With narcissists, there’s an underlying sense of profound vulnerability, shame, inferiority, and worthlessness. 

Narcissism is a defensive coping structure and children who develop this kind of coping structure tend to repress their feelings of vulnerability and shame. They build an exterior persona to mask their overwhelming feelings. 

They develop a false grandiose and superior personality, often becoming domineering and competitive. They are out of touch with their inner, emotional world and so they don’t actively engage with people on an emotional level. 

The narcissistic personality avoids self-reflection at all costs and it learns to mimic certain behaviors that look like intimacy. 

Narcissists tend to see themselves and others as either worthless or wonderful. When they see themselves (or others) as perfect, they need to stay that way in order not to feel worthless. They seem to be in a state that is disconnected from other people.

The Narcissistic Family and Its Role in Addiction

In a family in which one or both of the parents are narcissistic, the family is structured in such a way that the needs of the children are secondary to the needs of the parents. Several dysfunctional families are set up that way. But there are differences unique to a narcissistic family as opposed to an alcoholic family or an addicted family.

Addiction is a huge part of this whole narcissistic family system. People coming out of families like this are dysregulated themselves, and they are carrying complex trauma. There’s a pattern of depression, anger, confusion, family rifts, and alienation.

It manifests in many ways, whether it’s substance abuse, sex addiction, eating disorders, or any kind of addiction. There’s a loss of homeostasis when you’re in that traumatizing environment. And so, you try to find a way to cope with all of the confusion.

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0:00.0

Hello everyone. Welcome to the Addicted Mind podcast. We are now on to episode 90. My name is Dwayne

0:15.3

Austerland and I'm your host and I'm the founder of Novis Mindful Life Institute, family counseling and recovery center

0:22.6

in Long Beach, California. If you or anyone you know is struggling with any of life's challenges,

0:28.1

reach out to us. You can find out more about us at the addictedmind.com forward slash help.

0:34.8

Also, you can support The Addicted Mind by rating and reviewing us in iTunes. That

0:39.6

really does help get us exposure. And I really appreciate it. Also, think about joining our

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Facebook group. Just go to Facebook, type in the Indicted Mind podcast, click join and continue the

0:51.0

conversation online there as well. So today we are going to talk with

0:56.2

Julie L. Hall and she is the author of The Narcissist in Your Life, recognizing the patterns

1:02.8

and learning to break free. I was excited to have Julie on the podcast. I actually reached

1:08.7

out to her to see if she would be a guest and come on

1:11.8

and talk about narcissism. I think that is a topic when people come in and seek treatment

1:19.6

about addiction. A lot of times they have grown up in a narcissistic family structure.

1:26.5

And due to the trauma that comes with that, they've gone

1:29.5

to addiction to be able to cope with that. So I thought having your on as a guest would be

1:35.6

really helpful to people and would be a topic that people would want to know more about. For a lot of

1:42.7

people who have grown up in narcissistic

1:44.8

families, it can be hard to see the patterns that are there. And so I think her book does an

1:51.6

excellent job of breaking that down and pulling the pieces apart and making it clear so that if this is

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something that you struggle with, you can understand it

2:03.5

and understand the impact that it can have on you as well. And then learning how to deal with that

2:08.9

because it can be a difficult thing and a challenge to be able to cope with a person who

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