This is Aiton Weinstein.

And I'm Naor Menninger, and you're listening to Two Nice Jewish Boys.

In May 1997 something happened that would change the relationship between humans and computers forever the game of chess was played but it wasn't just a regular game on one side

was Gary Kasparov the undeniable chess master of the world.

On the other side, a bunch of ones and zeros, aka Deep Blue, IBM's computer that was developed

with one purpose and one purpose only, to beat Kasparov in chess. And it happened. Deep Blue won three to two after a match of

six games and the history of computers changed forever. Cut to almost two decades later, after a

computer did the unthinkable, there was even a bigger challenge at hand,

beating the Goh world champion. Go is a Chinese game, which is considered to be much more complex

than chess, with endless possibilities. However, eventually the computer did it again and defeated the world champion.

Cut to Jaffa, Israel, early 2000s. Ali is sitting at home watching his favorite anime show,

Hakirno go. He's inspired by the fascinating game the characters in the show are playing,

and he decides to try for himself he goes online and starts

playing and by 2009 he will be europe's youth champion at go by 2015 he'll be the second best

go player in europe today we're honored to be joined by ali jabarine and hear his incredible

incredible story thank you so much for joining us.

How are you? Hey, guys.

Any, anything we missed on the intro or is it accurate?

No, it's pretty good. I'm actually pleasantly surprised. You've guys done your research.

Yeah. Yeah, pretty accurate there.

So can you tell us a bit about the first time you

stumbled upon the game of go um yeah so it was like a phase when we were kids around those years

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