Howdy folks welcome back to the podcast today Katie and I are excited to talk about whether or not it gets easier having more children more if it gets more challenging more complicated

But before we dive into that conversation I do want to thank each and every one of you that have taken the time to leave a rating or a review on Spotify or on iTunes or whatever platform you listen to us on. Or if you do watch this on or if you do watch this on YouTube when you

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So it's so yeah well thank you that's all I have to say thank you so

much and with that said we will get today's episode going going. I know that this is kind of a delay of game because you're dying to know is it easier to have one child or five or you know really that's that's the max of our experience so we can't go on from there.

But I did want to let you guys know if you enjoyed the episode with my mom that we did the other

day. I did include a mini podcast. I did create a mini podcast, I should say that's a private

podcast with more excerpts of that interview. So if that's a private podcast with more excerpts of that interview so if that's something that you've been looking for then you could find that link down in the description box.

Now talking about kiddos. Yeah, I mean obviously recently we recorded an episode on kind of our thoughts around family planning and that brought up the

conversation around you know head count really really, like, what is a number that we feel like we can manage and then that is that even the question to be asking.

And I do think that, you know, I loved having that conversation and I think both of us came away from that

conversation feeling like we shared what we cared about and shared our hearts

but also not wanting to in retrospect and I have actually haven't listened to the whole thing.

But we also want to just be like firm forever, you know, advocates of families, of large families,

of having children.

And I do think, you know, pragmatism can get in the way. Sometimes our own logic,

our own reasoning can, I shouldn't say get in the way, but it can hinder our growth and our

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