It all comes back to knowing what you're doing.

So I think from a manufacturer, from an industry standpoint, we need to do a much better job

on how do we kind of teach the next generation, but also the generation that's out

there that have done things the same way.

Welcome to the Fine Home Building Pro Talk podcast, our regular discussion with building industry

professionals. This is Senior Editor Patrick McComb. Today I'm joined by Tara Murray, Director of Marketing

for Benjamin

Obdike. You can find the Fine Home Building Pro Talk podcast and the original Fine Home Building

Podcast at finehomebuilding.com slash podcast. You can leave feedback and ask questions there too.

Tara, it is such a pleasure to have you on the show. Thank you so much for doing this.

Patrick is such an honor to be you on the show. Thank you so much for doing this.

Patrick, it's such an honor to be with you guys today. Is honor the right word? I don't know.

Anyway, honor is definitely the right word. I, yes, I'm a super nerd when it comes to the podcast.

So I, uh, I do. I couldn't believe I got your email. It's a true honor. Well, I'm, I'm delighted to have you on here.

I've spoken to you in the past and it's always enjoyable. So we're going to have a good time. I guarantee it.

So are you healthy, family healthy? Everything okay there?

Yeah, yeah, we're good. We're just kind of staying grateful. COVID hasn't personally touched our family or thankfully the Obdeg family as well. We've all been safe and healthy. So yeah, it's just trying to figure out the new normal, as everybody

likes to say. But I think overall, we're doing we're doing the right stuff and keeping everybody

healthy. What challenges has the outbreak brought to the business world for you?

Yeah, it's been interesting because we've gotten the violent shove into remote work and making

sure everybody can do that. So we've upgraded phone systems. But even from a customer standpoint,

we're doing things like virtual job site training,

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