I dreamt that you were twisting through seven suns of gold and the gypsy was insisting

that story must be told I came two in the morning but I took it as a warning that you might be a treasure.

I could touch but never hold.

Hello, everybody, and you are listening to the Soberful podcast, and I am joined today by Arlina Allen.

Hi, Arlina. How are you?

I'm well. How are you?

Good. It's really good to see you. Arlina's. Hi, Arlina. How are you? I'm well. How are you? Good. It's really good to see you.

Arlina's been on the show before. She has a podcast called One Day at a Time and is another person in very long term sobriety. How long have you been sobered before now? It was 30 years in April. Wow.

That's amazing.

That's amazing. I was 10. Tell everyone a little bit about like what you do and who you are and that kind of

stuff. Sure. Yeah. So like you said, I host a podcast. I'm a woman in long-term recovery

and I help people who are struggling with alcohol who aren't

really interested in doing like their traditional passive recovery. But you and I both know that,

you know, recovery is 10% about the alcohol and 90% about like emotional sobriety. I just saw, I think you had a video that did really well.

Yeah. Yeah. You know, I call it emotion management. It doesn't matter what you call it. But the thing is,

it's like we need to, you know, really master our emotions if we want to leave productive lives. And so really

my focus is a lot around how to build self-esteem, which I feel like

is kind of at the core of everything, you know, reshaping our beliefs so that they allow us.

You know, it's kind of funny. We go on this track and we think a, we have a feeling, we think a thought,

we make a decision, we invoke the law of cause and effect, and we have an experience

that actually goes back to confirm the belief. So this confirmation bias loop. And so my

suggestion is that if you're not getting what you want, you need to sort of go back and

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