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Most Notorious! A True Crime History Podcast

290: Sitting Bull, Crazy Horse & the Battle of the Little Bighorn w/ Mark Lee Gardner

Most Notorious! A True Crime History Podcast

Erik Rivenes

True Crime, History, Education

4.72.8K Ratings

🗓️ 18 April 2023

⏱️ 95 minutes

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Summary

On June 25, 1876, in the valley of the Little Big Horn, Crazy Horse and Sitting Bull, and the warriors who were inspired to follow them, fought the last stand of the Sioux, a fierce and proud nation that had ruled the Great Plains for decades. It was their greatest victory, but it was also the beginning of the end for their treasured and sacred way of life. And in the years to come, both Crazy Horse and Sitting Bull, defiant to the end, would meet violent—and eerily similar—fates.


Award-winning historian and author Mark Lee Gardner joins me once again, and it's been a while! He is the author of "The Earth Is All That Lasts: Crazy Horse, Sitting Bull, and the Last Stand of the Great Sioux Nation", which True West Magazine declared the best non-fiction book of 2022. It is both a dual biography of two iconic Lakota leaders and also a detailed account of arguably the most famous battle in the history of the American West.


Mark's website: https://songofthewest.com/

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome all to another episode of the most notorious podcast.

0:29.6

I'm Eric Rivenes. Thank you for hanging out with me today. So it is with great pleasure

0:35.3

that I reintroduce award-winning historian, author and musician Mark Lee Gardner to the

0:43.4

show. He was on many years ago to chat both about the James Younger Gangs Northfield

0:48.6

bank raid and about Billy the Kid in Pat Garrett. Today he joins me to talk about his most recent

0:54.8

book which was chosen by the way by True West magazine as the best nonfiction book of 2022.

1:03.6

It is called The Earth is All That Lasts Crazy Horse Sitting Bull and The Last Stand of the Great

1:11.5

Sue Nation. Welcome. Thanks so much for coming back yet again. Hey you're welcome Eric. We have a

1:18.4

history man. It goes back many years so it's always a pleasure. Yes we sure do. Always a pleasure.

1:25.8

For the next interview we could do an interview about our interviews. There you go. That's right.

1:31.8

Yeah. Or do a podcast about it. Yeah. So again you've written about some legendary characters in

1:41.9

Western American history. Jesse James, Billy the Kid, the Rough Riders. It makes perfect sense that

1:49.4

you would choose to write a book about these two iconic figures, Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse.

1:56.8

Figures very important to the Lakota people and to the history of the American West. What was it

2:02.9

intimidating at all to choose these highly revered men as the dual subjects of your most recent work?

2:11.7

Well yeah it was intimidating and there are certain iconic figures that are as a historian and

2:21.6

you have to write about them that are intimidating. It was the same thing with Theodore Roosevelt

2:26.9

who was truly a brilliant individual and an author and a president of the United States.

2:33.4

Here's Mark Gardner and Cascade Colorado doing this story about this incredible figure in American

2:41.8

history. It's the same way with the Lakota leaders, Crazy Horse and Sitting Bull but even more so

2:51.5

I didn't grow up in that culture and I had to learn so much about Lakota culture and religion

2:59.4

and thankfully that has been studied literally for decades and so there's a lot of material out there

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