And black absorbs heat in the summer, which is bad, and absorbs heat in the winter, which is great.

And you have to do really intense engineering calculations to figure out what is the better roof membrane.

And, oh, by the way, the better we insulate the roof assembly, we mitigate the effect of that color.

Welcome to the Fine Home Building Pro Talk podcast, our regular discussion with building industry

professionals. This is Senior Editor Patrick McComb. Today I'm joined by Diami Diami Plotkey, Senior Project Manager for Roof Services on Long Island in New York.

You can find the Fine Home Building Pro Talk podcast and the original Find Homebuilding podcast at Fine Homebuilding.com slash podcast. You can leave feedback and ask questions there too.

Diami, it is such a pleasure to have you on the show. Thank you so much.

Good morning, guys. It's nice to see you both again.

You know, I got to point out to folks that you have been podcasting long before me.

And what is the name of your podcast? And are you still doing it?

The Modern Woodworkers Association podcast is, I'm proud to say it's the longest continuously running woodworking podcast.

And it predates your sister podcast over at Fine Woodworking by about three weeks.

But we stand by those three weeks, and we're up in the 310, 320 episode, something like that.

I would take every opportunity to remind them that yours predates theirs.

Oh, I do. I do.

With what's going on in COVID, it's been quite a while since I've seen Ben in person, but it'll

come up again.

On the subject, how's your work and home life changed since the pandemic outbreak?

Home life is, I'm going to touch on that first because that doesn't lead into the conversation

in the way the work life does. But the home life is everyone is healthy, and really that's all

I can be thankful for. We're both, my wife and I both still have jobs and are working,

so income is the same, and our children are old enough that they can be

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