It changed me because I was like, I'm becoming something that I'm not and I am that dude that

walked into a team room that said don't be on the wall and I looked at that every single day

and I let that drive me and if we lose touch with that stuff as we get older we become weak

and we if we start letting things slide with that then we'll let things start signing for others

and we accept mediocracy. It's a slippery slope. It's a slippery slope and I think that it's

healthy for people to encourage one another as a pure group to be better. I think it's fine.

I will say this like I'll start this podcast by saying

Cam is a very kind and humble person and he is like a 100% just a small town. Good dude. Yeah,

like pure and simple like we went to the bow rack and I felt like I went home like I felt like

I was like it does have Idaho vibes absolutely. You know Wayne is I feel like Wayne is a lot like

camp to the owner of the bow rack really yeah like I think if I had to like

smize what you're talking about and what it's like just a consistency well you know Wayne is

like best friends with Ed Westbrook yeah which is another small world so the owner of the bow

rack in Oregon which is cams camhains his go-to bow shop the small world getting smaller is wet

Ed Westbrook is retired Idaho state police captain and he's also one of my close friends like

he I've known him for I mean well over 10 years we met because I had a German short-haired

pointer Carl is like my most iconic dog that I've ever had Ed helped me train Carl when I was

deploying back and forth and um so we got to be friends Ed and Kay which they're from

town just south of Moscow Idaho and then they're really good friends with

the guys are Wayne and what's his wife's name Lisa um gosh I'm not in the pleased you know

listen to this uh she's such a cool such a cool lady yeah and so I met them for the first time

while I've been hearing stories about them for years through Ed and Kay like you got to go to

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