Huh, have you ever wondered what a sandwich sounds like?

Not much to it, is there?

Unless, of course, it's a Walker's sandwich.

Mmm, that is good.

Now that's what Asani should sound like.

Go all crisp in with walkers.

Delicious.

Hi there, I'm Jason Gatz and you're listening to Think Again, a Big Think podcast.

Big Think is an online forum for big ideas from the world's most creative thinkers and doers.

With the Think Again podcast, we're in uncharted territory.

Short, surprise clips from our interview archives launched spontaneous discussions

on everything from Life on Mars to whether everyone, yourself included, is a liar.

My guests have no idea what to expect, and neither do I.

Today I'm joined by one of England's greatest dramatists, or David Hare. He's the author of

over 30 plays and has directed for stage, film, and television. screenplays for The Hours and the Reader were nominated for Academy Awards,

and he's just written a penetrating new memoir called The Blue Touch Paper.

Welcome to think again, David.

Thank you very much. I'm terrified.

Oh, don't be terrified. It should be fun.

So there are a couple of things, a couple of ways I wanted to start getting into this.

In your book, you say, and I'm paraphrasing here, that your mother spent much of her life afraid and that you both inherited that fear and have also spent a lot of your life rebelling against it or fighting against it.

Or trying to fight it, yeah, not rebelling against it or fighting against it or trying to fight it

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