When I was in Ireland, I had pen pals, and then I got on really one with one. His name was David

Filipando, and we sort of came out to each other. And so I devised this band that I would get to L.A. and stay with him.

I got off the bus, walked out of the station, and a flatbed truck full of drag queens came tearing around the corner, and they were all screaming in

waving. And you know that thing where I was like, oh well I knew it was gay, but I didn't know it was this day. So I came in here to

promote a book, and you were a big very kind of steveys and teasing me and say, oh come work in Virgin, come work with your lovely hair.

And I, two things. One, it was lovely here. I could see my house, we're on 17th of the Gorgeous Day. The other thing was the you were a different person.

And I thought that was really telling. And I walked away thinking, actually that's not a bad idea. And then Virgin got into touch with my agent.

About a minute later. Yeah, as my footsteps are echoing at the garter. So I'm lying on the door mask, and this isn't conscious, I didn't think about it.

But I remember saying to the old lady, can you hold my hand? And she looked shocked, she looked kind of like taking a back, but sort of went, okay, and she did.

And that must be such a basic human thing. And it must drive so much of our life in terms of relationships that we want to be with someone when we die.

And because in that moment, lying on our door mask, I did. That is the voice of the great and powerful Graham Norton who has signed up to come and work with me and the gang and all the lovely people, all the boys and girls, all the ladies and germs,

all the 17th floor of the mighty news tower at Virgin Radio from Saturday, the 9th of January at 930. But not only on Saturdays, he's also on Sundays at 930.

Till 1230. So Graham Norton, double bubble. There you go, Saturdays and Sundays from 930, 31230, on Virgin Radio for at least three years.

That's his contract. Minimum of three years. I probably shouldn't have said that, but there you go, too late now. What a chat we had, by the way. And that whole chat over two hours with coming up in a moment or two, but first, may I tell you that today's episode is brought to you by the Sunday Times Life Lessons with added how to wow for which tickets are on sale right now at LifeLessonsFestival.com.

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