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visit laddarday struggles.com to learn more Day Struggles. This is your host, Valerie. I'm so excited to be back with you all today with Nathan again. Hi, Nathan.

Hello. Good to be back. Yes, we are happy to be here. We have been deep in conversation for the last, gosh, we were going to sit down and record and an hour passed while we were trying to put our thoughts together. I don't know. Am I exaggerating? Was it now? No, you're not exaggerating. We just got talking and we were like, wait a minute, hold on. I need to make sure I understand this before I record something. This is kind of a complicated topic. As you know, we are deep into a conversation about how patriarchy hurts men.

And specifically, we are comparing how those who have been socialized, men who have been socialized in a patriarchy, have the same

attributes to a more or less degree as those who struggle with psychological and emotional

maturity. And we are getting this information from some research done by a gentleman by the

name of Levi Murray. And I'm not going to mention much more about that because we're episode five in.

And I've mentioned it all of those four times before. So if you want to jump back into those

former episodes, you will know sort of the origin point for our conversations. But in essence,

what we've been doing is we have been using his research and comparing the characteristics of emotionally underdeveloped

people with those men who have been socialized in a patriarchy.

And I think it's important to say that this is, of course, on a spectrum.

That does not mean that every single human that has been, or male human

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