#286: John Donahoe, Former CEO of Nike, Director of Athletics at Stanford – Create strategy from the outside in
How Leaders Lead with David Novak
David Novak Leadership
4.8 • 596 Ratings
🗓️ 9 April 2026
⏱️ 83 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, friends, and welcome to another episode of How Leaders Lead with David Novak. |
| 0:05.0 | Today we have John Donahoe on the show. And when it comes to disruptive change, |
| 0:10.2 | John Donahoe really has seen it all. He's served as a CEO of Nike, of eBay, and of service now. |
| 0:16.2 | And today, he's navigating the crazy changes in college sports as the athletic director at Stanford University. |
| 0:23.3 | In today's conversation, you'll learn how John navigates big changes with a strategy that focuses |
| 0:28.0 | on what he calls outside in thinking. You'll also hear him share vulnerably about some of the |
| 0:33.7 | mistakes that he made at Nike and about the mindset shift that has helped him frame |
| 0:38.1 | adversity into opportunity. Enjoy this conversation with David and John, and I'll see you at the |
| 0:44.5 | very end of the episode for the debrief. |
| 0:52.3 | John, I got to tell you, you've got one of the best golf swings I have ever seen. |
| 0:56.9 | Have you been able to translate that beautiful, long, back swing, flowing rhythm that you have into a good score lately? |
| 1:04.2 | The good news, David, is that my experience in golf doesn't resemble my experience in business. |
| 1:10.0 | I had a caddy about 10 years ago say |
| 1:12.5 | to me on the 14th hole at San Francisco. He said, hey, John, can I be honest with you? And I said, |
| 1:19.8 | sure, Billy, what's up? He said, John, you have a beautiful golf swing. But I have never seen anyone |
| 1:25.3 | get less out of a golf swing than you do. |
| 1:30.3 | And I'm like, Billy, you know my game. |
| 1:33.1 | I'm going to pick the business rather than golf. |
| 1:36.7 | Well, I doubt if you're getting a whole lot of time to play golf, |
| 1:40.8 | given the fact that, you know, when I was just doing a little bit of research, |
| 1:45.3 | you've got to be more of a viewer than doer. You know, Stanford has, I believe, 36 athletic programs. The average for a university is 22. That's amazing. And I got |
| 1:53.1 | to imagine you're watching more sports now than than you ever have in your life. Is that true? |
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