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Empire

285. Suez Crisis: The Secret Meeting Between Israel, Britain & France (Part 2)

Empire

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4.64.1K Ratings

🗓️ 27 August 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Why did France & Britain secretly collude with Israel against Egypt? What did America think was going on in Suez? Why did the Soviets think the US was behind an uprising in Hungary? William and Anita are joined once again by Alex Von Tunzelmann, author of Blood and Sand: Suez, Hungary, & The Crisis That Shook The World, to discuss the second chapter in the unfolding Suez Crisis of 1956… Join the Empire Club: Unlock the full Empire experience – with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, early access to miniseries and live show tickets, exclusive book discounts, a members-only newsletter, and access to our private Discord chatroom. Sign up directly at empirepoduk.com  For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com. Email: [email protected] Instagram: @empirepoduk Blue Sky: @empirepoduk X: @empirepoduk Assistant Producer: Becki Hills Producer: Anouska Lewis Executive Producer: Neil Fearn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:32.9

Hello and welcome to Empire with me, Anita Arnum.

0:34.9

And me, William, Peru.

0:38.6

And once again, we are joined by the fabulous Alex von Tinsolman,

0:45.0

Alex's absolute superstar, author of Blood and Sand, Sewers, Hungary and the crisis that shook the world.

0:50.1

And you left us on just the most delicious cliffhanger.

0:58.6

It was a psychodrama of Shakespearean proportions between, in the red corner, Anthony Eden,

1:02.0

fading hottie and Prime Minister.

1:03.3

Greying mustache.

1:07.8

Prime Minister of Great Britain with a much younger wife, Clarissa.

1:13.1

And in the blue corner, you've got Nasser of Egypt, who is the young hottie, who is much closer in age to Clarissa. And the whole kind of sort of clash of these two

1:20.4

men, one of whom insists this dinner, this horrible dinner, of talking down to Nassah and explaining

1:26.3

to him what it is to be Arab.

1:28.0

You can just imagine.

1:29.3

Sort of buck clenching moment, that would have been.

1:32.3

And the two of them have precisely zero chemistry, unless the chemistry is explosive.

1:38.4

So from that point, I think what we should do is look ahead to July the 26, 1956, which is not long after this dinner.

1:47.3

Is it, Alex?

1:48.1

That's a year and a bit.

1:48.9

The dinner was February 195.

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