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Hey, everyone, you're on air with Ella, and today's guest is Jancy Dunn. Hey, Jancy, welcome to the show.

Oh, pleasure to be here.

Jancy, you wrote a book that I'm holding in my hot little hands called How Not to Hate Your Husband After Kids. I am dying. I love this book so much. It was so candid and so brave,

and obviously the title is just a huge score. Well done you.

Is it a huge score, though? Because I have heard from people that the title is harsh. And I mean,

it's relatable. And anyone with kids will automatically go, ha-ha, right? But do you think,

how do you feel about the title? I feel like the title makes you go, wait, what? I don't hate my

husband. Okay. So first,

it challenges you, all right? Right. And then secondly, you're like, oh, except for the times that I do

actually hate my husband. And the fact that you say how not to hate your husband after kids,

and on the cover, there's a picture of a man reading his cell phone while sort of kind of feeding

like a screaming toddler.

Yeah.

Who look exactly like my husband.

That's the eerie thing because our art director had not seen a picture of him.

And this is actually true to life.

Although interestingly, you can see on the cover if you have it in front of you that he's got some Chuck Taylor's on.

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