This is Aiton Weinstein.

And I'm Na Or Meninger, and you're listening to Two Nice Jewish Boys.

The New York Times has never been a great friend of the Jewish people. 80 years ago, for example, during the Holocaust, what was arguably the most important American news outlet

didn't do much to expose its readers to the atrocities that led to the Holocaust, nor to the atrocity

of the Holocaust itself. What's even more amazing is that the publisher of the New York Times

during that period was a Jew, Arthur Hayes Salzberger. In modern times, it seems like the

Times constantly takes the pro-Palestinian angle, even when it means spreading actual fake

news. Only a year ago in a list of the child victims of the war in Gaza, the New York Times

included a photo of a kid who died seven years prior in Ramallah. That is why our guest today,

renowned Ma'ariv columnist and author, Lilakh Sagan, has decided to take

it upon herself to carefully trace the New York Times coverage of Israel on a day-to-day basis

and to conclude once and for all how biased they actually are. We're super happy, super

thrilled to have Lilakh here with us today to talk about the New York Times,

talk about Israel, and to talk about fake news. Thank you so much for joining us. How are you?

Thank you for inviting me. I'm glad to be here.

So how did it start this endeavor?

Well, the truth is it actually started about 20 years ago, maybe even 22.

During the second Intifada, I took some time off work then.

I had two little girls at home.

And I was on the internet a lot.

It was actually the beginning of internet, really, that we didn't really do that before.

And suddenly, you know, you could read the New York Times from Israel.

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