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The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

281: I'd Like to Buy a Vow

The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

Society & Culture, History

4.839.1K Ratings

🗓️ 8 November 2022

⏱️ 101 minutes

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Summary

Bestselling author Mike Rinder drops by to discuss his new memoir, A Billion Years: My Escape From a Life in the Highest Ranks of Scientoloty, his time in “the hole,” and how he went from saving the world withscientology to saving the world from scientology.

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0:00.0

Okay. We're laughing because Chuck just said, what do you want to talk about in the preamble?

0:10.3

And I said, wow, what if we talk about the amazing interview we just conducted?

0:14.7

That's probably a good idea. I'm going to go with it.

0:17.5

It's the way I heard it episode number 281 and not to overstate it. But yes, this was

0:22.0

a very good interview. And I say that not because Chuck or I asked amazing questions, although

0:28.4

I think we did okay. You did better than I did. Yeah. Well, you know, that's kind of why

0:33.6

it's the way I heard it with who Mike. Yeah, Mike.

0:36.4

Yeah. Got it. Our guest is another Mike. Mike Rinder. He's been making the rounds because

0:42.4

he's written an extraordinary memoir called Abillion Years. Abillion Years refers to the term

0:50.3

that seorg members in the Church of Scientology pledge to serve a billion years. The name

0:58.4

of this episode is I'd like to buy a vowel V-O-W because I think it rhymes nicely with the

1:04.3

title of the book and you'll hear how it pops up in our conversation. But Chuck, this

1:08.6

was a good one, man. Really, I could have listened to that guy talk for three hours. It's been

1:12.5

a long time coming and regular listeners. No, I've had it be in my bonnet with Scientology

1:18.2

for a long time. This was gratifying on damn near every level.

1:23.2

It really was. We've had spanky Taylor on before who knows Mike Rinder very well. And she's

1:29.7

been telling me for a long time that he's such a wonderful guy and he proved to be just

1:34.2

that. He's got that charming Australian accent, which makes it really jacked up because he

1:39.5

says vowel and you think vowel or vowel. I didn't know what he was talking about, but

1:45.7

we worked it out. He's on the podcast because he spent most of his life, not just in Scientology,

1:51.8

but way, way, way, way up the food chain. He and David Muscavige were basically connected

1:59.8

at the hip for a long time. He got in Scientology at a very young age. He worked on the Apollo,

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