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Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy

278: Buddhist Strategies for Financial Abundance, Featuring Zeina Halim

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy

David Burns, MD

Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement

4.6899 Ratings

🗓️ 24 January 2022

⏱️ 53 minutes

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#278: Buddhist Strategies for Financial Abundance, Featuring Zeina Halim

Jan 24, 2022

Today, we feature the work of Zeina Halim, a beloved member and small group leader in our Tuesday training group at Stanford, who specializes in the treatment of anxiety. 

This is Zeina's third appearance on our podcast. Previously she helped us with a fabulous program on family conflicts at the start of the pandemic (Corona Cast 3, 4-06-2020) and later did live some personal work on one of the Self-Defeating Beliefs, the Achievement Addiction (Podcasts 211, 10-12-2020, and 212, 10-19-2020). 

Today Zeina brings us something radically different: Buddhist Strategies for Financial Abundance. What in the world does that mean, and why should you care? 

She starts by describing her study of Buddhist practices, and cites some books that have inspired her, including The Diamond Cutter:  The Buddha on Managing Your Business and Your Life, by Geshe Michael Roach.  

Zeina explains the quasi-mystical concept of "Karma," which is the idea that you get what you give. In other words, the energy and spirit you convey to others, and to the universe, will come back to you. For example, when clients who are not a good fit for her practice contact her, Zeina goes out of her way to help those clients find a great fit with another therapist.  

This "Karmic practice," she explains, has paradoxically caused many patients to suddenly seem to show up, asking for treatment. In other words, when she meets the needs of others, the universe meets her needs. 

She says that she doesn't need to do very much at all of the kinds of traditional marketing that most other therapists do in an attempt to build their practices. This "karmic practice" has been mostly sufficient and far more effective than traditional marketing methods.

This is a theme that I (David) resonated with, since I also give away almost everything for free, and have received an abundance of positive and loving gifts from the universe in return.

Zeina cautions that this, and all Buddhist practices, must be done with balance and thoughtfulness: "When I started, I gave too much, and this can actually cause self-harm." 

She said that some people have raised the question: "But isn't this an inherently selfish practice, since you are hoping for abundance for yourself?" 

Her response to this is that when you receive financial abundance, you can give even more to others for free. 

She also described another book of Geshe Michael Roach's, The Karma of Lovewhere you try to give to the other person and meet their needs instead of worrying about whether they're loving you enough or meeting your needs. 

In a previous relationship, this led to inner peace and, paradoxically, she felt much more loved, although nothing observable had changed in the way her partner treated her. The change in her feeling loved all came from changes SHE made, not her partner. This aligns very closely with the TEAM-CBT approach to relationships, as well as the teachings of most religions.

We also discussed group TEAM-CBT vs. individual therapy.  I described my phenomenal experiences in Philadelphia creating a large intensive group therapy program at my hospital, which was in a rough, inner city neighborhood. Most of our patients had few resources, and many could not read or write. Some were homeless. The program was more or less free to all of them, and our patients and their families gave us so much in return. 

I was absolutely thrilled that Zeina also loves doing therapy in groups. Many patients and therapists alike think of group therapy as a kind of inferior approach, but my experience has been the opposite. If given the choice, I'd treat everyone in groups.

Zeina will be starting a TEAM-CBT anxiety group within a week of this podcast. The group will focus on all the anxiety disorders, such as chronic worrying, shyness, phobias, OCD, PTSD, and more. There will be one group for adults and one for young adults, aged 18-24.

If you're interested, feel free to text Zeina at 1-408-412-5678, email her at ZeinaHalimTherapy@gmail.com or visit her website at ZeinaHalimTherapy.com 

As an aside, we'll find out if Zeina's Buddhist Karmic Marketing works. She did not ask me to promote her group. I just decided to promote it a little bit because I'm so excited about what she's doing, and I hope her practice grows and prospers to the max! 

Thanks for joining us today! If you like what we're doing, tell your friends about the podcasts. Your word of mouth is our main and only source of marketing. This year, we'll see the five millionth download of our podcasts. Thanks so much for your support and for making it all happen! 

Rhonda, Zeina and David

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Feeling Good podcast, where you can learn powerful techniques

0:11.6

to change the way you feel. I am your host, Dr. Ronda Borovsky, and joining me here in the

0:16.8

Murrieta studio is Dr. David Burns. Dr. Burns is a pioneer in the development of

0:22.3

cognitive behavioral therapy and the creator of the new team therapy. He's the author of Feeling

0:27.4

Good, which has sold over 5 million copies in the United States and has been translated into over 30

0:33.2

languages. His latest book, Feeling Great, contains powerful new techniques that make rapid recovery

0:39.3

possible for many people struggling with depression and anxiety. Dr. Burns is currently an

0:44.7

emeritus adjunct professor of clinical psychiatry at Stanford University School of Medicine.

0:52.3

Hello, Rhonda. Hello, Rhonda.

0:55.2

Hello, Zena.

1:00.1

Gosh, hi, David, and welcome to episode 278 to our listeners around the country and across the world.

1:07.1

And today our guest is a really awesome team therapist, Zana Halim, and she's a member, a beloved member of the Tuesday group.

1:17.0

She was on our podcast before during COVID.

1:20.9

And that was a very impactful podcast when we talked about how COVID in the very beginning of the lockdown, how it was affecting

1:30.1

her and her family.

1:31.6

Oh, I remember that one.

1:33.3

Yeah, I had forgotten about them.

1:34.7

That was awesome.

1:36.3

Yeah.

1:37.1

Was that?

1:37.7

Did we do forced empathy?

1:39.2

Yes, we did.

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