What's up, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls around the world.

I would like to welcome you back to the Real Talk with Zooby Podcast.

On today's episode, we have got on an author, a speaker, and a professional social psychologist,

and this is the one and only, Dr. Adina McMillan. Welcome to the show.

Oh, thank you for having me.

Happy to have you here. Dina, I've done a very brief intro there, but for those who are not

familiar with you and your work, please tell them a little bit about yourself.

Well, first of all, I'm a social psychologist, which differs from a clinical psychologist.

In social psychology, we study, I would say we focus on influence, both how you influence

yourself to do things, to believe things, to try things, and how you're influenced by the people

and the environment around you. So we study persuasion, manipulation, coercion,

indoctrination, and brainwashing, anything that has to do with changing your beliefs and behavior.

That's awesome. There's a lot to get into there, but what is it that got you into this work?

I've always been really curious about people, and I come from a military family.

So we moved around a lot when I was a kid. So I got to see the world,

and I got to see people of all different kinds, and I just, I developed a curiosity.

What makes people believe something? What makes people do something? I also looked at the world

that I was in, and I noticed that everywhere you went, people had different beliefs and different

behaviors. So the curiosity was there, and then once I started at university, I came across

a social psychology class, and I absolutely fell in love, although I must tell your audience,

I classify social psychology as the evil science. Usually when I do a talk, I have some kind of

animation with an evil scientist squeezing a brain or something, because we also study how to

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