272. Stuart Vyse — The Uses of Delusion: Why It's Not Always Rational to Be Rational
The Michael Shermer Show
Michael Shermer
4.3 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 17 May 2022
⏱️ 85 minutes
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Summary
Shermer and Vyse discuss: What is a delusion? • veridical perception • perceptual illusions and irrationalities • Kahneman vs. Gigerenzer: rationality, irrationality, and bounded rationality • Rational Choice Theory and Homo economicus • William Clifford v. William James: When is it ok to believe anything upon insufficient evidence? • pragmatic truths, 3 conditions: living hypothesis, forced question, momentous • death and delusion: Is it useful to believe death is not the end of consciousness and self? • paradoxical behavior and the search for underlying reasons for our actions • rational irrationalities • self delusions — that is, delusions about the self • optimism and overoptimism • depressive realism • bluffing self and others • lies vs. bullshit • self-control, will power, and time discounting • status quo bias • superstitions, rituals and incantations • faith and religion • delusion in love and marriage • brainwashing and influence (Stockholm Syndrome, etc.) • conformity, role playing, obedience to authority, and the banality of evil • the core of personality and the constructed self • free will and determinism.
Psychologist Stuart Vyse's new book, The Uses of Delusion, is about aspects of human nature that are not altogether rational but, nonetheless, help us achieve our social and personal goals. In his book, and in this conversation, Vyse presents an accessible exploration of the psychological concepts behind useful delusions, fleshing out how delusional thinking may play a role in love and relationships, illness and loss, and personality and behavior. Throughout, Vyse strives to answer the question: why would some of our most illogical beliefs be as helpful as they are? Vyse also suggests that evolutionary pressures may have led to the ability to fool ourselves in order to survive.
Stuart Vyse is a behavioral scientist, teacher, and writer. He taught at Providence College, the University of Rhode Island, and Connecticut College. Vyse's book Believing in Magic: The Psychology of Superstitionwon the 1999 William James Book Award of the American Psychological Association. He is a contributing editor of Skeptical Inquirer magazine, where he writes the "Behavior & Belief" column, and a Fellow of the Association for Psychological Science and of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to the Michael Sherman Show. |
| 0:11.6 | Hello everyone. It's... The Michael Sherman Shower |
| 0:19.5 | Hello everyone. It's showtime. It's the Michael Sherman show and I'm your host Michael Sherman my guest today is Stuart |
| 0:27.0 | Vice with his new book The Uses of Delusion, why it's not always rational to be rational. Or you might say there's rational irrationalities. |
| 0:31.0 | Stuart Weiss is a behavioral scientist, teacher, and writer. He taught at Providence College, |
| 0:36.4 | the University of Rhode Island, and Connecticut College. Weiss's book, Believing in Magic, |
| 0:42.4 | the Psychology of Superstition, won the 1999 William James Book Award of the American Psychological Association. |
| 0:50.0 | He's a contributing editor of Skeptical Inquirer magazine where he writes the |
| 0:54.2 | Behavior and Belief column and he's a fellow of the Association for Psychological Science |
| 0:59.6 | and of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry. |
| 1:03.0 | So Stuart and I, well, we've known each other a long time |
| 1:05.0 | when I was a big fan of his book, |
| 1:07.0 | Believing in Magic, and I've used it often in my own writings and research. |
| 1:11.0 | Here we discuss what is a delusion, veridical perception, did we evolve to perceive |
| 1:16.7 | reality accurately? Perceptual illusions and irrationalities? That is if I'm fooled by one of these intro psych |
| 1:24.6 | visual illusions does that make me irrational we discuss the debate between two sides |
| 1:30.8 | that kind of the condominium side that humans are basically irrational |
| 1:35.9 | and the gingering's are side that we are bounded rationality that is |
| 1:40.3 | where rational beings win in the right circumstances. |
| 1:44.7 | We talk about rational choice theory in Homo economicis. |
| 1:47.8 | Do we maximize utility? |
| 1:49.3 | Or I should say, when do we maximize utility? |
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