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Hey, lovely RCP listeners. We wanted to just thank you for your incredible support and response to our series with Jess Hill about her books, see what you made me do, and our discussion regarding coercive control.

Many of you asked that we interview Rosie Batty, and so I reached out to Rosie and was absolutely delighted that she agreed to come on Real Crime Profile.

Now, these episodes are incredibly hard-listened. They are intense as Rosie talks for one of the first times in a long while about her son Luke, who was murdered aged 11 by his father on 12 February 2014 in Australia.

So I just wanted to give you a trigger warning as we get into the detail about what happened, which is incredibly important that we do because we must understand the inextricable links between domestic abuse and child abuse, and just how dangerous coercive control is, and more so that it's largely not being identified as a high risk factor to serious harm and homicide.

That's what we want to change, and so I wanted to let you know that in the wake of Hannah Clark and her children, Alia, Leana, and Trays, horrific murders in February 2020, that I have launched a petition in Australia to criminalize coercive control.

And if you would like to be an activist and add your signature to the petition, that would be wonderful. It's going to be in our show notes so you can click on the link and add your signature.

And there's also links in the show notes, and at the end of these episodes, if you're experiencing domestic abuse or stalking and if you need help and advice.

So don't feel that you're alone. Please don't suffer and silence. There's help out there for you, and there's the link to the dash risk checklist website.

So without further ado, here's our interview with Rosie Batty.

With horrific domestic violence homicides, it's understandably common for us men to say how appalled would be if that violence were afflicted upon our wife, our sisters, or our daughters.

We've all heard men say these words in the wake of yet another woman killed, the names of whom come across my desk all too regularly.

What we don't say enough is how appalled would be if our brothers, our sons, or our mates had caused that death or injury to someone they claimed to love.

I say this because of one unavoidable fact. Overwhelmingly, the perpetrators are men. On average, one woman is murdered every nine days in Australia.

By her current or former partner, with most killed within 90 days of the end of the relationship.

If men are responsible for the line share of abuse, why is it that we simultaneously carry out the smallest proportion of advocacy and leadership, the overrepresentation of women,

rests on them not just as victim survivors, also rests on them as advocates, experts and frontline service providers.

I've met countless extraordinary women in my role as minister.

Last week, for example, I visited South Coast domestic violence services, all of which were start by women with impressive knowledge, compassion, and unwavering dedication.

Turning our attention to male behaviour, male intervention, and male prevention, that spotlight can make a substantial difference.

You can refer men who may be using violence to support and counselling services.

Let them know there's no shame in seeking help. Drag down the barriers around mental health, drug, or alcohol abuse. Call out this respectful attitudes.

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