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Empire

270. Why Canada Never Joined The USA (Ep 4)

Empire

Jack Davenport

History

4.64.1K Ratings

🗓️ 7 July 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Why did Washington invade Quebec? How did the US fail to take the Canadian territories during the Revolutionary Wars? And why did the British burn the White House? Anita and William are once again joined by Maya Jasanoff to discuss how the American Revolution birthed Canada. ----------------- Empire Club: Become a member of the Empire Club to receive early access to miniseries, ad-free listening, early access to live show tickets, bonus episodes, book discounts, our exclusive newsletter, and access to our members’ chatroom on Discord! Head to empirepoduk.com to sign up. For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com. ----------------- Email: [email protected] Instagram: @empirepoduk Blue Sky: @empirepoduk X: @empirepoduk Assistant Producer: Becki Hills Producer: Anouska Lewis Senior Producer: Callum Hill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:33.5

Hello and welcome to Empire with me, Anita Arnhem.

0:35.2

And me, William Durimple.

0:40.9

Now in the last episode, we were looking at how the seven-year war ended both New France and pretty much any hope that the French Empire in the Americas would ever become a reality.

0:47.0

But it did also bring its own problems.

0:49.3

And that is the American Revolution.

0:51.5

And we are once again delighted to be joined by Maya Jassanoff, author of

0:56.0

Liberty's exile, the loss of America and the remaking of the British Empire, which is partly about

1:01.6

this transformation. So, I mean, let's first of all look at this aftermath of the seven-year war.

1:06.7

I mean, we touched on it before, but the main thing is you have to pay for the bullets and shots

1:13.0

that you fired.

1:14.3

And to do that, you need to raise taxes.

1:17.3

But you know what?

1:18.3

The colonists don't like taxes very much because they don't see why they have to pay for

1:23.2

an exchequer far, far away when they're the ones fighting the hardships in the land

1:26.7

of expedition and

1:27.8

pushing back boundaries that, you know, those in London will never understand. Or even more to the

1:32.4

point when they don't get to have a say in the selection of their representatives. But for the purposes

1:38.1

of thinking about Canadian history, we might want to highlight a couple of other consequences

1:42.8

of the Seven Years' war leading up to the

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