it's astonishing. And again, at the risk of being redundant here, I'll have to say, there is no way that your politicians, no matter how venal and useless, in any sovereign country and the public service even within that country, would ever do what you just described willingly or with their own volition. So it's just a very important message for any watcher.

None of this comes organically.

Of course none of it's organic, guys.

Doesn't come from within your own countries and your politicians.

Comes from up above.

We know exactly who it is.

So I'm here with Eddie Hobbs and Counterpoint Studio.

And we're discussing the new Future 40 document

which came out of the Department of Finance and it's absolutely horrific and it doesn't just apply to

Ireland. It's the exact same template as is applying to any of your European countries or indeed

to an extent in America too.

So to great conversation. I kind of took the gloves off a bit here. I hope you enjoy the fact

that I wasn't mincing my words. Fantastic conversation. Just have a look.

So, Ivor, you know, in the past you've looked at the Danish situation, the Danish

data. And when you look at, when you compare and contrast, what Nick is describing as chaos,

and he's right, let's call it it, it's chaotic. We don't have a system. We just, we're trying

them into centres. There's no integration or assimilation. It's just a complete another heap.

And now the spoil

the vote is after changing at least the rhetoric. But when you look at the Danish system,

what do you see? Yeah, it's black and white. And to be honest, there's another point as well,

often in data analysis. The data you see should be what you'd expect from logic, right, an understanding of psychology

and everything else. And it lines up exactly. It's what you'd expect. So the non-European migrants

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