#266 | The ARRIVE Trial Reaches Overseas: Birth Culture in France with Nicola Thompson and Her Daughter

Down to Birth

Cynthia Overgard & Trisha Ludwig

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4.8 • 586 Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2024

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Today's episode is a four-way conversation between us and a mother and daughter who are living in France. Nicola Thompson is a former L&D nurse of 30 years who worked in the U.S., and is now working in France as a traditional birth attendant, full-spectrum doula and IBCLC. Sasha Sharif, her daughter, is a mother of two with a third on the way. Sasha explains the impact her mother's life's work has had on her, and how that wisdom ultimately guided her away from birthing in the French mater...

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0:00.0	Much of the hospital routines, the typical prenatal care and hospital routines, are very, very similar to the US.
0:11.3	And now, sadly, at least in Paris, the arrive study has arrived, and they really kind of sell it as something that's going to help women avoid a cesarean and things like
0:20.9	this. They had women in that group who developed conditions like preeclampsia, as you would
0:25.4	imagine among 3,000 women, some will. They had some who just got tired of being pregnant,
0:30.3	and they wanted to be induced, somewhere induced for medical reasons or for preference.
0:35.9	And unbelievably, they kept them in the study. They kept them
0:39.4	in the expectant management group. And in studies, you always have the people you have to kick
0:44.1	out because they no longer meet the requirements of the classification that they're in,
0:48.1	which grossly misled the public. She just said flat out, you know, the other day we had one woman who did not get an
0:55.6	epidural in the hospital and she was bothering everyone making noise. How can you have informed consent?
1:01.4	And then you write in your study that 82% of women are getting them on their own record because
1:05.6	I think there is the feeling that, well, it's an epidural. Everyone does it. And I can still have a
1:10.4	physiological birth. Except you can't. And it's an epidural. Everyone does it, and I can still have a physiological
1:11.2	birth, and except you can't. And it's a really important point that everybody understands that
1:17.0	it sounds like in the culture of birth in France, there is no such thing as physiologic birth.
1:24.7	I'm Cynthia Overgard, owner of Hypnoberthing of Connecticut, Childbirth Advocate, and Postpartum Support Specialist.
1:31.5	And I'm Tresha Ludwig, certified nurse midwife and international board-certified lactation consultant.
1:37.6	And this is the Down to Birth podcast.
1:42.2	Childbirth is something we're made to do, but how do we have our safest and most satisfying
1:47.0	experience in today's medical culture?
1:49.3	Let's dispel the myths and get down to birth.
2:00.8	Well, Nicola and Sasha, it is so nice to have you both as mother and daughter here on Down to Birth Show.
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