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Tech Policy Podcast

#265: Preventing Algorithmic Discrimination

Tech Policy Podcast

TechFreedom

Technology

4.845 Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2020

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

While the use of algorithms has proven incredibly valuable in a range of applications, their implementation can often lead to harmful discriminatory outcomes. Dr. Ignacio Cofone, assistant professor at McGill University Faculty of Law, joins the show to discuss how this happens, as well as potential policy solutions for minimizing discrimination without hindering the use of algorithms. For more, see his papers: “Antidiscriminatory Privacy,” “Algorithmic Discrimination Is an Information Problem,” and “Nothing to Hide, but Something to Lose,” and his op-ed in the Hill, “Privacy Law Needs Privacy Harms.”

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0:00.0

Welcome to a tech policy podcast. I'm Ashken Kazarian. On today's show, we're going to talk about preventing algorithmic discrimination.

0:13.0

Joining me is one of experts and academic Dr. Ignacio Cofone, assistant professor at McGill University's Faculty of Law.

0:20.0

Ignacio, welcome to a show.

0:22.1

Hi, thanks so much for having me here.

0:24.1

So your topic is obviously a very serious and complicated topic, and you've written multiple

0:30.4

papers about this, which we will all link in notes to.

0:34.6

So if our lessons want to do a deeper dive in them, they can go there. But let's try

0:39.1

to break it down in 20 minutes or under. Can you give us, just like a brief overview, we're going

0:46.2

to focus on two of your papers and how they connect to each other and what they cover. So the papers

0:51.6

focus on a function that the law has sometimes, which is that the law

0:56.4

in some occasions blocks demographic information to prevent people from being discriminated

1:02.0

against. So for example, people may be familiar with the fact that employers are banned by

1:08.6

employment law to ask job candidates whether they intend to

1:13.1

take a parental leave in the near future, whether they intend to have a baby.

1:18.1

They also prevent from asking about HIV status or other genetic information.

1:22.8

And that is because by not having that information, the law is preventing employers to discriminate

1:29.3

against people that have the status.

1:31.3

Now, once we develop a better understanding

1:36.3

of how information flows regarding privacy,

1:39.3

which is this blocking demographic information

1:42.3

and discrimination works, this will allow us to

1:46.8

apply this method to other dimensions and have further protection for people that would

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