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🗓️ 5 October 2020
⏱️ 71 minutes
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0:00.0 | So today, ladies and gentlemen, we've got an interesting conversation we've been wanting to have. |
0:10.0 | Our friends at the Holy Post, which is another a podcast that many of you are familiar with, |
0:16.7 | Sky, one of the co-host has been on our show and vice versa several different times. |
0:24.0 | They've done, they've been doing some really good work |
0:27.1 | on racism in its historical antecedents. |
0:32.6 | And particularly, and I knew, I knew of Phil Vissure, right? |
0:37.8 | Phil is the guy behind Veggie Tales. |
0:40.2 | So anybody who had a vaguely, you know, Christian experience or church experience |
0:46.5 | 20 years ago, you know, this was like this was what you did in kids ministry. I mean it was a it was a huge deal. So I knew Phil Vissure the name that way. He started the |
1:00.7 | podcast with Sky, man, maybe seven, eight years ago. |
1:05.0 | They were one of the first, you know, |
1:08.0 | They were the OGs, absolutely. |
1:11.0 | And Phil has taken on this sort of interesting role in these days as kind of a cultural |
1:20.0 | historian, a popular level cultural historian, on race issues and the church's |
1:27.8 | complicity in American racism. And we're gonna, we're going to so we wanted to talk to him about that |
1:37.0 | he produced a video that were the Tim is going to put in the show notes about what has happened to bring us to |
1:50.4 | where we are now. What is. How did we get here? Really very informative |
1:56.2 | set of videos. If you just type Phil Vissure into YouTube, you're going to get |
2:00.7 | those videos. And they've done some stuff on their podcast about this. |
2:05.5 | So in light of the presidential debate |
2:07.7 | that we just watched and the kind of re-engaging of discussions around white supremacy. |
2:14.3 | We thought, hey, this is, we'd love some of his perspective on this. |
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