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🗓️ 17 June 2025
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Our favorite episodes involve answering listener questions in a "no secrets" style. That means we might be right, we might be wrong, but we'll always be honest (and hairy!).
We started with a game theory analysis on how we think this year's Western States 100 will play out. This is the type of conversation that athletes have before every race, but they usually wouldn't play it out in public. We can check our work in 2 weeks!
And then we broke down tons of great questions! Topics: what drives us, messages from our younger selves, The Feed's new high carb mix that is resetting the cost curves, responders and non-responders to passive heat, going for it at the back of the pack, diagnosing and improving offsets between climbing and flats, adding passive heat v. adding more training, whether you need heat training in the summer, a couple hypotheticals on road and track athletes coming to trails, a spicy hypothetical on Kilian Jornet, adding weight vest training, balancing competition with self-acceptance, sub-ultra v. ultra for making the sport more accessible, getting into coaching, and the popularity of Park Run in the UK v. the US.
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-David and Megan
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0:00.0 | Woo! |
0:01.6 | Welcome to the Summerwork All Play podcast. |
0:03.4 | We are so happy to do with you today. |
0:04.9 | Happy Tuesday. |
0:05.6 | It's Tuesday. |
0:06.6 | And we're coming into the best time of year in trail running. |
0:09.2 | The best time of year in touring. |
0:10.5 | I actually know what you're talking about here. |
0:11.7 | Yes. |
0:12.2 | Broken Arrow is this weekend, which is amazing. |
0:14.6 | Then followed by TrailCon, put on by free trail, which is like a celebration of the entire community into Western States the following week. |
0:21.4 | Then we got Hard Rock. Then we got you running around in a heat suit, making videos about it. |
0:25.7 | It's like, what's happening? There's a lot of goodness. |
0:28.0 | So you're uplifting me running around in a heat suit right next to Western States and Hard Rock. |
0:32.8 | Oh, exactly. Yeah. Actually, in your YouTube, you dressed for the camera, so you started basically naked and put on |
0:38.7 | the heat suit. |
0:39.3 | And I was like, that's a good moment in trail running. |
0:42.4 | It was a good moment in my life. |
0:43.8 | Okay, okay. |
0:44.4 | I saw it on the playground. |
0:45.6 | Yeah. |
0:46.1 | And I was like, this is too good for the playground. |
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