Welcome to the Calm Mom podcast, the show for ambitious women ready to get off the Hot Mess Express.

I know you've got a lot going on.

You work so hard.

You're raising an incredible family.

And sometimes it can be overwhelming.

I'm your host, Michelle Grocer.

I'm a certified master life coach,

attorney, wife, and mom. And years ago, I was right where you are. I was running a busy law

practice while raising a family, and I was on the fast track to burnout. I thought I just needed to be

more organized or have better routines, but it was learning how to heal

and regulate my nervous system that expand in my capacity to gracefully hold more of this big,

beautiful life. You too are worthy of an extraordinary life in and beyond motherhood. Learning

to be a calm, anchoring presence in your home and at work is going

to be your superpower. If you're here to do the inner work that brings a sense of calm amidst the

chaos, I'm here to join you on that journey. Each time you press play, your growth continues,

so let's get at it. What's up, friends? Michelle Grossu here. You are listening

to the Calm Mom podcast. Today we've got something a little bit different on the show. I'm excited for

you guys to hear it. I have teamed up, partnered up, met with my friend Randy Rubinstein. She is a parent coach and she helps

parents who are raising strong-willed kids. And instead of interviewing her like I usually do

with our guests here, Randy's also the founder and the host of Mastermind Parenting,

and she has a podcast by the same name. And what we thought we would do is just get together

for a conversation around what it looks like to raise strong-willed kids, what we can do

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