Hello, lovey humans, I'm Wiley and you are listening to X stories, a podcast where we learn about

connections, kinks, and pleasure by sharing experiences so we can inspire one another to make the whole wide world a sexier more loving place

beginning with our own personal spheres.

And our guest today is a late 30s Jewish queer who's been in a 12 year long relationship and enjoys

being a slurry leather dyke. She loves hot tubs. Oh me too. Community building and leather worship.

A tattoo artist originally from South Florida and New York City who currently lives in Los Angeles.

Welcome Katie Diamond!

Hi! I am so excited to have you here. you please start off by rating yourself on a

sexual shame a meter if 10 is the highest and 1 or 0 is like no way where do you

fall today shame a meter wise and why? I mean I think it may change

depending on the scenario but I think generally yeah it can get squiggly but for the

most part I think I kind of operate on like a two or three.

Like I don't, I'm not really concerned about what other people think.

I feel like that's where shame kind of comes from is our concern about people's. people think about

about people's perception about us.

I had to let that go forever ago.

I can't think about that.

It's too much, it takes up too much space in my mind, so.

I feel that. When do you notice it squiggle up or down? As much as we don't want it to,

mine still gets squiggly sometimes, but what about you? You know, I think that it feels related to how connected I feel to the people in the room.

In a shocking turn of events, I feel like the more vulnerable I feel the more of a chance of feeling shame or embarrassment might occur

in a scene at a sex party someplace where maybe on the bus you know what I mean like if I'm

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