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Bad People

26. House of Tears: Why do we mistreat young mums?

Bad People

BBC

True Crime

4.41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2021

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Children are playing on the grounds of a former Irish Mother and Baby Home in Tuam when they find 20 tiny skeletons under a concrete slab. Stories follow that shock the world, of over 800 babies found in a septic tank. But who is to blame? Years later, an investigation into the Bon Secours Home establishes that 978 babies and children died on the grounds while it was run by Catholic nuns. The 2021 report of the Commission of Investigation into Mother and Baby Homes draws attention to the horrific treatment of unmarried mothers in Ireland throughout the 20th century, who often had nowhere to go but to these mismanaged and abusive homes. The leader of Ireland, the Taoiseach, apologised for the profound and generational wrong which was the result of stifling, oppressive and brutally misogynistic culture. But, how did it get so far? And, what can we do to make sure such a situation doesn’t happen again? In this episode of Bad People, criminal psychologist Dr Julia Shaw and comedian Sofie Hagen try to understand why society still judges young mums, examine the concept of coercive confinement, and explore research on religion-related child maltreatment. This episode includes audio from a Video dramatization of individuals' stories produced by the Commission of Investigation into Mother and Baby Homes and Certain Related Matters. Warning: This episode contains strong language and descriptions of violence CREDITS Presenters: Dr Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen Producer: Paula McGrath Artwork: Kingsley Nebechi Music: Matt Chandler Series Editor: Rami Tzabar Academic Consultants for The Open University: Dr. Zoe Walkington Dr. Camilla Elphick Commissioning Assistant Producer: Adam Eland Commissioning Executive: Dylan Haskins Commissioning Editor: Jason Phipps Bad People is produced in partnership with The Open University and is a BBC Audio Science Production for BBC Sounds. #BadPeople_BBC

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0:00.0

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0:23.2

Match of the day top 10. Listen only on BBC sounds

0:28.4

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0:32.2

Three two one

0:33.9

What do you think is one of the most stigmatized aspects of womanhood?

0:38.0

Start listing and I'll stop you when you've arrived at today's topic go. Oh, okay. Let's see periods

0:44.0

Buddy hair, buddy odour being fat being chubby being over as I zero having slept with a lot of people

0:50.0

Having not slept with anyone wearing skirts that are too short wearing skirts that are too long talking too much talking in general having boundaries

0:57.1

Not having it bleached

0:59.3

Eating too much not eating enough

1:01.9

motherhood

1:03.2

Oh could have kept going for the rest of the day

1:06.1

Yeah, motherhood is a minefield isn't it if you have kids too early you're a bad mother if you work

1:11.6

You're a bad mother if you have a ratio of vice at your child. You're the devil

1:15.8

If your child can't write a novel by the age of three you failed and at the same time there are these videos to go viral of

1:23.8

Men braiding their daughter's hair and the whole world is like oh my god look at this perfect man

1:29.6

He's being a dead and there's extra stigma for moms if the mom is poor is unwed doesn't know who the father is or is

1:36.5

Mentally unwell to be honest

1:38.9

I'm ashamed to say that until a couple of years ago

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