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The Rewatchables

‘25th Hour’ With Bill Simmons and Wesley Morris

The Rewatchables

The Ringer

Tv & Film

4.613.6K Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2020

⏱️ 105 minutes

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The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Wesley Morris of The New York Times to spend their last day together watching Spike Lee’s 2002 film, ‘25th Hour,’ starring Edward Norton, Philip Seymour Hoffman, and Rosario Dawson. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:16.0

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0:24.0

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0:30.0

Coming up, you're a New Yorker. You've got New York in your bones. 25th hour is next.

0:37.0

Montgomery Brogan is a night to discover. It's going on prison for seven years.

0:41.0

If he can change his whole life in one day, critics are healing 25th hour as extraordinary, remarkable, a brilliant performance by Edward Norton in a stunning ensemble.

0:51.0

It's been the best night of my life. Edward Norton, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Barry Pepper, Rosario Dawson, Anna Pacquan, Brian Cox, in a Spike Lee joint.

1:00.0

25th hour, certainly one of the finest films of the year. Right in our now playing in New York in LA.

1:08.0

Alright, my old friend Wesley Morris is here. He is one of the world's preeminent Spike Lee Spike of Files. What do you say Spike? Spike of Files?

1:22.0

Lee Maniac. Lee Maniac, whatever. Whatever you are, you're that maniacally. I don't know. I got to think about that.

1:31.0

Somehow I like this movie more than you. 25th hour came out in 2002. It was shut out from every major award possible, even nominations, which we'll talk about a little bit.

1:42.0

If you're talking about what's age the best, this movie has aged the best in a lot of different ways.

1:48.0

And I honestly feel like this is one of the best movies of the last 20 years for me. I think it is Spike Lee's not his most important movie.

1:59.0

Uh-huh. Maybe not even his best movie, but the most efficiently well done, well crafted, just satisfying movie for me that he's made. You do not like it as much as me, although you do respect it.

2:14.0

Make the case against this being one of the best Spike Lee movies.

2:20.0

I have to say, and this is a very important, I don't know, wait, first of all, it's just nice to see you. Hello, it's nice to see you as well.

2:30.0

Second, what I'll say is I realized watching this again, because I knew I was talking to you. I did not feel anything for these people.

2:41.0

I don't know how there's no other way to put it. They did not. And this is sometimes a Spike Lee problem, because Spike Lee is frequently interested in characters as archetypes and not as characters.

2:54.0

But this is a movie where the characters aren't archetypes. They're characters and nothing happened for me. And I think there is one extraordinary sequence in this movie.

3:05.0

And I think that that was a place where I was trying to make this investment in people, or to figure out like what my relationship was going to be to them for the remainder for the remaining like 40 minutes.

3:17.0

The great sequence is the nightclub sequence, of course. And you know, the movie is is rewatchable. I think part of the thing that makes it so great is Rodriguez, Rodriguez, Prieto's cinematography.

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