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Some Work, All Play

255. The Shocking Shoe Study That Changes Everything, Boston Marathon Reactions, Creatine for Endurance, and Resting Heart Rate!

Some Work, All Play

David Roche and Megan Roche

Sports, Running

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2025

⏱️ 104 minutes

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Summary

Our minds were blown by the Boston Marathon right before recording this great episode! The main topic was a new study on the Puma R3 super-shoe, conducted by a top researcher. It showed a shocking 3% improvement in running economy relative to the previous generation of super-shoes, with a universally positive response among study participants.

We discuss the evolution of the tech, how it was made with the help of optimization algorithms, and what might come next. Running may never be the same, and we don't think people have realized it yet.

We also had some instant reactions to the Boston Marathon! That included Jess McClain running a 2:22 for top American while working a busy job and training with lower volume. We break down some of her training!

And this one was full of amazing topics! Other topics: Boston Marathon thoughts, how carbs are changing the dynamics of road marathons, nose strips, the awesome Coffee Club podcast, an incredible article in Outside Mag by Devin Kelly, Strava's acquisition of AI coaching app Runna, a hilarious post-exercise cooling study, a quick-hitter news rundown, fatigue resistance efforts, how time on feet in your job may change training, resting heart rate variation among people, downhill form, and creatine for endurance athletes.

This one was so fun! Thank you so much for being here.

Let's go girls,

-Megan and David

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0:00.0

Woo!

0:01.0

Woo!

0:02.0

Welcome to the Summerk All Play Podcast.

0:03.0

We are so happy with you today.

0:05.0

Happy Tuesday.

0:06.0

It's Tuesday.

0:07.0

And I'm feeling some big Boston Marathon vibes on this Tuesday.

0:10.0

Oh my gosh.

0:11.0

Okay, so we're recording on Monday and we just got finished watching.

0:15.0

Actually, we are so close to being done watching that C.J. Albertson still has a Strava title as Morning Run.

0:20.0

We are like 20 minutes

0:22.1

out from the Boston Marathon. Oh my gosh. Right before we started recording, you're like, David,

0:27.0

you smell a lot right now. And I think it's because watching Boston made me so anxious, just because

0:33.1

we coach Jess McLean, who had a breakthrough day, ran a huge PR for First American 222 at Boston, which is just wild, seventh place.

0:44.7

And I was so excitedly stressed.

0:47.4

Like, I knew she was going to crush it.

0:48.9

But I'm coming to you live with a lot of anxiety coursing through my veins.

0:53.1

You were refreshing that live tracker again and again and again using a lot of anxiety coursing through my veins. You were refreshing that live

0:54.2

tracker again and again and again using a lot of cookies on that browser. How does it feel?

0:59.5

So maybe one of your all-time best, I mean, actually for sure, your all-time best coaching performance.

1:04.6

Well, it's interesting. It depends on how you evaluate like trails versus roads, right? Like,

1:09.6

I think objectively, Boston Boston Marathon top American,

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