[♪ INTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪

Brett McKay here and welcome to another edition of the Art of Manliness Podcasts.

Earlier this year, we published an in-depth series about masculinity and the Christian religion,

in particular, why it is that nearly all Christian churches, the world over, women outnumber men.

And one of the sources for that series was a book called Why Men Hate Going to Church,

and today on the show, I talk with you off of that book, David Murrow.

David and I talk about the significant disparity in the sex ratio of Christian churches,

the factors that led to that gender gap, why fewer men in the pews typically leads to

an overall decline in congregation attendance, what some churches are doing to make the church

more man-friendly, and why newer mega churches have been more successful at attracting men

than older, mainline churches, and why one branch of Christianity, Eastern Orthodoxy,

hasn't suffered the same decline in militant attendance that played other traditional denominations.

Whether you enjoyed our series on Christianity and Manhood, have wondered why you find going

to church so imbarable, or simply enjoy discussions on the intersection of faith, culture,

and masculinity, you're going to love this podcast.

After the show's over, check out the show notes at a-wim.is slash murrow.

[♪ INTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪

David Murrow, welcome to the show.

Thanks Brett, good to be with you.

You wrote a book called Why Men Hate Going to Church.

We used it as a source on a series about Christianity and Manhood about a month ago,

and sort of the muscular Christianity movement that happened in the late 19th and early

...