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The Peter Attia Drive

#252 ‒ Latest insights on Alzheimer’s disease, cancer, exercise, nutrition, and fasting | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

The Peter Attia Drive

Peter Attia, MD

Health & Fitness, Medicine, Fitness

4.77.3K Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2023

⏱️ 150 minutes

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Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D., is a scientist with expertise in the areas of aging, cancer, and nutrition who translates complex scientific topics into actionable insights on her podcast, Found My Fitness. In this episode, Rhonda provides her latest thinking as it relates to Alzheimer's disease including the possibility of a vascular hypothesis as well as the factors that can impact disease risk such as type 2 diabetes, blood pressure, omega supplementation, exercise, sauna, and more. She also touches on cancer risk including the relationship between cancer and exercise as well as the link between alcohol consumption and cancer. Additionally, Rhonda explains her new focus on exercise and protein consumption as well as how her perspective has shifted as it pertains to fasting and time-restricted feeding.

We discuss:

  • Alzheimer’s disease: Rhonda’s evolved thinking on neurodegenerative diseases [2:30];
  • The breakdown of the blood-brain barrier in neurodegenerative disease [8:45];
  • An explanation for the observation that type 2 diabetes increases risk of Alzheimer’s disease [15:45];
  • The role of omega-3 fatty acids (EPA and DHA) in brain health and prevention of neurodegeneration [19:45];
  • Comparing the preventable nature of type 2 diabetes, atherosclerosis, cancer, and dementia [32:15];
  • Blood pressure: an important modifiable lifestyle factor that can affect Alzheimer's disease risk [35:15];
  • Rhonda’s outlook on “precision medicine” as it pertains to one’s genetic predispositions [38:45];
  • Possible mechanisms by which exercise reduces the risk of Alzheimer’s disease [45:45];
  • Building your aerobic pyramid: neurobiological effects of exercise, benefits of lactate peaks, and more [53:45];
  • Maximizing mitochondrial biogenesis: alternative training approaches and strategies [58:45];
  • Possible brain benefits of sauna, and Rhonda’s personal protocol [1:09:30];
  • The relationship between cardiorespiratory fitness and dementia risk [1:15:30];
  • How exercise may reduce the risk of cancer [1:20:30];
  • The overarching impact of exercise on health, and the importance of focusing the factors that matter most [1:33:15];
  • Impact of alcohol consumption on breast cancer risk and overall health [1:37:15];
  • Exercise as an intervention for poor sleep habits [1:42:30];
  • The longevity benefits of consuming adequate protein and strength training to preserve muscle mass and strength [1:46:30];
  • How to get enough of the right kind of protein in your diet [2:05:15];
  • Fasting: weighing the risk vs. reward [2:12:15];
  • How Rhonda’s views have shifted on diet and exercise [2:15:30];
  • How to follow Rhonda’s work and more about the benefits of lactate for the brain [2:21:00]; and
  • More.

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, welcome to the Drive Podcast.

0:13.0

I'm your host, Peter Atia.

0:14.8

This podcast, my website, and my weekly newsletter, I'll focus on the goal of translating

0:18.7

the science of longevity into something accessible for everyone.

0:22.4

Our goal is to provide the best content in health and wellness, full stop, and we've

0:26.6

assembled a great team of analysts to make this happen.

0:29.4

If you enjoy this podcast, we've created a membership program that brings you far more

0:33.2

in-depth content if you want to take your knowledge of the space to the next level.

0:37.3

At the end of this episode, I'll explain what those benefits are, or if you want to learn

0:41.1

more now, head over to peteratiamd.com forward slash subscribe.

0:46.3

Now, without further delay, here's today's episode.

0:49.0

I guess this week is Rhonda Patrick.

0:52.7

Some of you may recall that Rhonda was one of the original guests on the pilot series

0:56.7

of the drive back in July 2018 when we were trying to figure out if we really wanted

1:00.4

to do a podcast.

1:01.4

Well, of course, we did, and it is awesome to have Rhonda back.

1:05.6

Rhonda also hosts her own podcast called Found My Fitness.

1:09.1

In this episode, we focused the conversation around a few important concepts, and we talk

1:14.2

about Rhonda's current interests along with areas where her perspective has either shifted

1:19.0

or evolved over the years.

1:20.7

We start the conversation with a deep dive into Alzheimer's disease.

1:24.6

We talk about the possibility of a vascular hypothesis for Alzheimer's disease.

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