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🗓️ 11 May 2025
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Since ChatGPT's arrival in late 2022, the top concern I’ve heard from teachers is that students will stop doing their own writing and rely entirely on AI. While that worry is real, more teachers are recognizing that AI is here to stay and are looking for ways to work with it rather than against it. My guest today, Tony Frontier, offers one of the most insightful takes I’ve seen on this issue. In his new book AI With Intention and in our conversation, he shares clear, practical strategies for helping students use AI responsibly and maintain academic integrity.
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0:00.0 | This is Jennifer Gonzalez, welcoming you to episode 251 of the Cult of Pedagogy podcast. |
0:06.2 | In this episode, we're going to learn a set of strategies you can use to guide students |
0:10.6 | toward using AI tools with integrity. Since ChatGPT burst onto the scene in late 2022, the number one concern I've heard from teachers about AI is that students would never do their own writing again, that they would just have AI do it for them. |
0:39.1 | While this is obviously a valid concern, I've heard a lot of conversations recently that tell me teachers |
0:44.7 | are coming up with some pretty nuanced solutions to this problem. Many of you have accepted that |
0:50.5 | AI isn't going anywhere, that it could, in fact, even help you do your work better, |
0:55.7 | and that maybe the most pragmatic approach is to coexist with it, to treat it like any other |
1:01.8 | source students might use to complete academic tasks. To date, the most thoughtful and |
1:07.8 | comprehensive take I've seen on this topic came from my guest today, |
1:12.3 | Tony Frontier. Tony is an educator, speaker, and author whose most recent book is AI with |
1:19.1 | intention, principles and action steps for teachers and school leaders. He has written an in-depth |
1:25.8 | article for cult of pedagogy this week that outlines a set of practices |
1:29.6 | we can use to ensure our students are still doing their academic work with integrity, |
1:34.7 | even with the constant presence of AI. |
1:38.3 | I think there's a lot of value in what he has to share. |
1:42.0 | He poses some provocative questions about cheating versus integrity. |
1:46.3 | He clearly captures some of the conditions that make students more likely to cheat. And he |
1:52.1 | offers a set of practical, realistic suggestions that respect the teacher-student relationship |
1:57.6 | and put our focus squarely on helping our students learn. And he wraps it all |
2:04.2 | inside a Boston marathon scandal from the past. It's one of my longer episodes, but it's such an |
2:10.6 | interesting conversation. Any educator working in the age of AI will get some valuable stuff from it. |
2:17.5 | Before we get started, I'd like to thank Explore Learning for sponsoring this episode. |
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