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Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas

250 | Brendan Nyhan on Navigating the Information Ecosystem

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas

Sean Carroll | Wondery

Society & Culture, Physics, Philosophy, Science, Ideas, Society

4.84.4K Ratings

🗓️ 18 September 2023

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

The modern world inundates us with both information and misinformation. What are the forces that conspire to make misinformation so prevalent? Can we combat the flow of misinformation, perhaps by legal restrictions? Would that even be a good idea? How can individuals help distinguish between true and false claims as they come in? What are the biases that we are all subject to? I talk to political scientist Brendan Nyhan about how information and misinformation spread, and what we can do as individuals and as a society to increase the amount of truth we all believe.

Blog post with transcript: https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2023/09/18/250-brendan-nyhan-on-navigating-the-information-ecosystem/

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Brendan Nyhan received his Ph.D. in political science from Duke University. He is currently James O. Freedman professor of government at Dartmouth College. Among his awards are an Emerging Scholar award from the American Political Science Association, a Guggenheim Fellowship, and election to the American Academy of Arts and Sciences.


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0:00.0

Hello everyone, welcome to the Mindscape Podcast. I'm your host Sean Carroll.

0:04.3

If you're like me, you know some people, maybe friends or colleagues, who believe

0:09.7

untrue things. Their beliefs are false, incorrect for some reason. Don't you hate it when

0:15.7

that happens? It may even be true. This is a wilder idea, but your friends might think

0:20.8

that you have some untrue beliefs. That's even more annoying. Why does this happen? Why

0:26.8

do people believe different things? Even when they're quite educated about them, right?

0:31.0

I mean, you might think that if people just didn't know that much about something, they

0:35.6

might be uncertain in their beliefs and be corrected when they get more information,

0:40.3

but that's not what we see, especially in the social sphere, the political sphere,

0:45.6

culture war, kinds of questions. People believe things despite the fact that there's a whole

0:50.6

bunch of people who believe other things and are trying hard to convince them. And we have

0:55.6

a special problem these days with the media landscape, with technology. We're flooded

1:01.4

with information, with opinions, with attempts to change our minds much more than ever before.

1:07.0

So there's actually two questions going on here. One is what is the information or the

1:12.6

sets of claims to which we are being subjected, right? Are we in filter bubbles? Is the news

1:18.7

media trying to be accurate? Or are we just hearing things that are tribal or politically

1:24.8

slanted in some way? So how do we control the relationship between our attention and the

1:30.2

information we get? And as a society, how should we try to make sure that the information

1:36.0

being given out is relatively accurate or safe for whatever you want it to be? The other

1:42.5

question is then, what do we do with that information that we get? What kinds of information

1:48.4

change our minds? We'd like to imagine a kind of Bayesian utopia where we have propositions

1:56.4

that we assign credences to, and new evidence comes in, we update our credences. But people

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