A major political resignation in Israel, the death of an American president and a conversation

with one of the leading analysts of Iran about what 2025 might bring.

It's unholy.

I'm Jonathan Friedland in London.

And I'm Anita Levy in Tel Aviv. Unholy, two Jews on the news, the happy 2025 is the way to talk to the, about these issues with you, sir?

I think so. I think so. Don't you find that happy new year just ever so slightly catches

in the back of the throat because you think we've already said happy new year three months ago.

That was the actual.

Us Jews we've had the new year before you guys did. That's what you're trying to say.

Well, it's no, I think it's just that, you know, it just, for me, I've always thought that the new year does feel like September because it's a change

of season. It's Russia Shanai. It's the new academic year. It's the new agricultural year,

which of course, as you imagine, I'm extremely close to those rhythms. But no, it just always has felt like that where January is just a bit in the middle of

winter, you know. So I'm yes, my solution has been to say happy 2025 to people. I notice people

are saying we survived to 25 as if, you know, the first quarter century, which I think we noted

the other day, this is now behind us. And we are into the second

quarter of this new century. You know, how's that working out so far? It hasn't been all

sweetness and light. But no, New Year, very, very different. Have you made a resolution? I'm

guessing Israelis don't make resolutions today for why would you?

It's not a big thing, the change of the year.

First of all, you said the v.

The first quarter, when you mentioned that, my mind just jumped to Tony Kushner's Angels

in America and the ghosts of Pryor's forefathers say the world has gotten so terribly,

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