249. Primatologist Explains the 1% Difference Between Humans & Apes | Richard Wrangham

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🗓️ 2 May 2022

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This conversation was recorded on September 1, 2021. I spoke to Richard Wrangham about his research on ape behavior. We explored prerequisites for chimp attacks, how cooking shaped human cognitive development, studying chimps in the wild with Jane Goodall, DNA similarity studies, proactive vs. reactive aggression, and more. Richard is a biological anthropologist at Harvard, specializing in the study of primates and the evolution of violence, sex, cooking, and culture. He’s also a MacArthur fellow—the so-called “genius grant”—and the author of books like 'The Goodness Paradox: The Strange Relationship Between Virtue and Violence in Human Evolution' and 'Demonic Males: Apes and the Origins of Human Violence.' —Chapters— 0:00 — Intro 2:39 — Jane Goodall 5:32 — Living in the wild 6:26 — Bumping into rhinos & sleep darting elephants 11:06 — Human competitiveness & sexual behavior 16:13 — "An enormous shock" from Yale 23:48 — Working with Jane Goodall 26:42 — Chimp mating habits 34:47 — Bonding via cooking 41:39 — Checking self-bias 42:26 — War and the 8-vs-1 rule 49:02 — Why kill lone neighbors? 56:41 — Cooking is really about calories 1:02:51 — The greatest discovery in human evolution 1:06:35 — Why do animals prefer it cooked? 1:10:05 — Fire & human development 1:12:16 — Innate violence, authoritarianism, and The Goodness Paradox 1:23:43 — Male aggression 1:42:01 — Outro #Fire #JaneGoodall #War #Apes #Cooking #Harvard // SUPPORT THIS CHANNEL // Newsletter: https://linktr.ee/DrJordanBPeterson Premium Podcast: https://jordanbpeterson.supercast.com/ Donations: https://jordanbpeterson.com/donate // COURSES // Discovering Personality: https://jordanbpeterson.com/personality Self Authoring Suite: https://selfauthoring.com Understand Myself (personality test): https://understandmyself.com // BOOKS // Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life: https://jordanbpeterson.com/Beyond-Order 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos: https://jordanbpeterson.com/12-rules-for-life Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief: https://jordanbpeterson.com/maps-of-meaning // LINKS // Website: https://jordanbpeterson.com Events: https://jordanbpeterson.com/events Blog: https://jordanbpeterson.com/blog Podcast: https://jordanbpeterson.com/podcast // SOCIAL // Twitter: https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson Instagram: https://instagram.com/jordan.b.peterson Facebook: https://facebook.com/drjordanpeterson Telegram: https://t.me/DrJordanPeterson

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0:00.0	Welcome to episode 249 of the JBP Podcast. I'm Michaela Peterson. In this episode,
0:06.8	Dad spoke to Richard Rangham about his time researching chimps with Jane Goodall,
0:12.0	what chimps can teach us about ourselves and the role things like cooking played in the cognitive
0:16.9	development of humans, hint or meat eaters. Richard is a biological anthropologist at Harvard,
0:23.5	specializing in the study of primates and the evolution of violence, sex, cooking, and culture.
0:28.8	He's also a MacArthur fellow, the so-called Genius Grant, and the author of books like The Goodness
0:35.6	Paradox and Demonic Males, Apes and the Origins of Human Violence. More specifically, they
0:42.9	discussed the impact fire had on a human development, proactive versus reactive aggression,
0:48.4	sleep-darting elephants, commonalities between chimps and ourselves, and different aspects of
0:53.2	chimp behavior like hunting, infanticide, friendship, and their mental checklist before attacking other
0:59.2	chimps. We hope you enjoy this episode.
1:09.1	Hello, everyone. I'm very pleased to have today as a guest on my YouTube channel and podcast
1:26.8	Dr. Richard Rangham of Harvard University. He's an anthropologist and primatologist,
1:31.9	and not only an anthropologist and primatologist, but one of the top, certainly one of the top people
1:38.5	in this field. I ran across Dr. Rangham's work back in 1996. He wrote a book with Dale Peterson,
1:47.5	Demonic Males, very provocatively titled A Study of Aggression in Primates, including human beings,
1:55.8	and an analysis as well of sex differences. And I learned an awful lot from that book. And since then,
2:02.2	he's published two others, Catching Fire How Cooking Made As Human, also not a title that you
2:10.3	would expect, because it's not as if people popularly think about cooking as something that made
2:17.0	as human. So that was very interesting. It's a great book. And then more recently, the goodness
2:23.5	paradox, the strange relationship between virtue and violence and human evolution, which was published
2:28.2	in 2019, Dr. Rangham began his career with Jane Goodall, studying chimpanzees in
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