247. High-Carb and Health, Trail Supershoe Study, Racing Frequency, Pros and Cons of Stretching, and Building Toughness!

Some Work, All Play

David Roche and Megan Roche

Sports, Running

4.8 • 1.4K Ratings

🗓️ 25 February 2025

⏱️ 100 minutes

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Summary

We put on some supershoes for an extra boost for this great episode! A main topic was a question we get a lot: whether high-carb fueling during training is healthy in a broader sense. We not only think it's healthy, we think that the question is best asked another way: how much healthier is fueling your training than the alternative of underfueling? It's true that you probably don't want to be slurping a gel at 3 PM for a snack. But around training, try to fuel the work you're doing.

The big science topic was a new study on trail shoes with carbon plates, which theorizes that they won't be helpful for trail runners. We use the study to talk about the risks of broad conclusions from narrow protocols. It's possible that carbon-plated shoes won't take over trail running in the next decade. But we would bet that they do.

And this one was full of fun topics! Other topics: the pursuit of greatness, a Western States 100 training update, sharing vulnerability, the shoe disqualification at the US 100 Mile Championships, individual variation in training, frequency of racing, filming training videos, Zone 2 guidelines, the debate around stretching, building mental toughness, and setting boundaries.

Like Timothée Chalamet, we're really in pursuit of greatness. Actually, scratch that. We are really in pursuit of not getting sued by energy bar companies.

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0:35.1	Woohoo. Welcome to the Summerwork AllPlay podcast. We are so happy to be with you today. Happy Tuesday. It's Tuesday. And I got Timothy Shalamee on my brain on this Tuesday. That is the best thing to have on your brain. I am obsessed with Timothy Shalame. I know. I was reflecting. I was like, I'm pretty sure I have Timothy Shalamee on my brain Monday to Sunday. It's a constant thing. But he is great. He is so great. He's such an amazing actor. I love how he comes on to SNL and just shows up as his full self. He is the originator of smoked cheta, the ass getta from one of those SNL sketches, which has been the namesake of our elliptical downstairs that makes a bunch of bumps in the night.
0:41.7	Actually, elliptical that was downstairs. We posted a picture from the paincape, and a very astute podcast listener left a great quote.
0:46.0	It was just like, RIP, spoke chow to the ass getter because it didn't work very well.
0:46.7	We had to get rid of it.
0:48.6	Yeah, it was called that because it went clank, clank, clank.
0:51.4	What did it go now as it left our house?
0:55.8	What kind of farm did it go to? Someone actually just came into our basement,
1:00.5	disassembled it and took it. It wasn't junk people or anything. It was just someone that came over.
1:06.4	So I'm not sure what they did it with it. I hope it is getting like an honorable death or some sort of retirement that like lives up to how much it meant to us. It's kind of a tragic way to go.
1:11.1	It kind of got dismembered. Did you think about that? It's not even in its full entirety. I mean, it was suffering,
1:15.4	though. It was suffering. It was bad. It was making some noises where it probably wanted,
1:19.9	it probably wanted that. It was an abomination to itself and to God. But yes, Timothy Chalmay is the greatest. And I love that you brought him up to start the podcast.
1:29.4	Man, he's been on my mind this morning. So this weekend at the SAG Awards, he gave his speech and watched 30 seconds of this speech. And it was like one of the inspirations that I needed to start this week.
1:39.1	Yeah, yeah. I just think the way he presents in the world, just so openly wearing his ambitions on his sleeve and saying
1:46.4	it in an award ceremony where everyone does the same thing at award ceremony like I'm just happy to
1:51.3	be here other people should have won it to all of this and it's like well in any field that's not
1:56.3	what leads to greatness like as much as we want to celebrate humility in society, that's not the thing.
2:02.3	Like, it might be part of a person, but it's not the part of a person that succeeds.
2:06.9	Actually, his quote was so good that I was going to describe it, but instead, I'm just going to read it.
2:10.4	Hell yeah. Because he said it way better than I of the grades. I'm inspired by the grades. I'm inspired by the greats here
2:21.3	tonight. I'm as inspired by Daniel DeLulis, Marlon Brando, and Viola Davis, as I am by Michael Jordan
2:26.7	and Michael Phelps. And I want to be up there. So I'm deeply grateful for this award. It doesn't, it doesn't, this award doesn't signify that, but it's a little bit more fuel, a little bit more ammo to keep going. And I love the idea of like, I feel like it's so rare for
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