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Real Crime Profile

#246: How To Fix A Drug Scandal, Part 2

Real Crime Profile

Real Crime Profile / Wondery

True Crime, Society & Culture, Exhibit C, Documentary

4.210.5K Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2020

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Laura, Jim and Lisa are joined one final time by Director and Producer Erin Lee Carr and criminal defence attorney, Luke Ryan.

We discuss how two chemists can have such a profound impact on so many people in the criminal justice system and who is ultimately accountable.

You won't want to miss it.


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0:00.0

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0:07.0

I was smoking at the lab, smoking at home. I actually smoked in the evidence room.

0:14.0

I was totally controlled by my addiction.

0:30.0

What was she part of a bigger problem?

0:36.0

She took the drugs.

0:37.0

Anything that she touched should be tossed down.

0:39.0

Liquid meth raises the intensity at which you feel alive.

0:43.0

It made me feel more alert. It gave me the pep I was looking for.

0:51.0

Your job isn't to contain it. It's to figure out how are we going to do justice?

0:55.0

Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. This is Jim Clemente, Retired FBI Profile of Form and Nex City Prosecutor and Writer Producer of CBS's Criminal Minds.

1:07.0

And with me today is...

1:08.0

Laura Richards, Criminal Behavioral Analyst, Fomany Scott Danielle, and Founder of Paladin National Stalking Advocacy Service.

1:14.0

And I'm Lisa Zinvety, I'm the casting director for CBS's Criminal Minds, and we're back continuing our conversation with two very special guests.

1:21.0

Hi, I'm Erin Lee Karnin, the director behind How to Fix a Drug Scandal on Netflix.

1:26.0

And my name is Luke Ryan. I am a Criminal Defense Attorney in North Hampton, Massachusetts.

1:31.0

And the star of the show. There we go.

1:33.0

We're so excited to have you back talking with us about such an incredible four-part show that's on Netflix.

1:40.0

So why don't we just dive right in? Did you try and I'm interviewed in both Erin?

1:45.0

Are you sure with both Sonia? Did you reach out to her and try and see if whether she would be interviewed in the same with Annie Dukin?

1:52.0

Yes, so we were able to leave a letter for Annie Dukin. She's never spoken to anybody. She's incredibly private.

1:59.0

I got a lot farther along with Sonia Ferrick. I was able to have a conversation with her in person off the record.

2:06.0

And I would say that I came away with a greater understanding of sort of what happened in her as a human.

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