This country is at war with Germany.

We shall go on to the end.

I remember the sheets of flame which came up and almost blinded us from our guns.

Welcome to her another episode of the World War II podcast.

I'm Angus Wallace. In this episode, I'm joined by Ronald Drabkin.

To uncover the fascinating yet complex story of Frederick Rutland, a first World War hero with a unique story,

known as Rutland of Jutland, for his bravery as an aviator during World War I.

Roland's career took an unexpected turn in the interwar years when he became a spy for Japan.

This is a gripping tale of loyalty, intrigue and a man who found himself on both sides of history. Ronald is the author

of Beverly Hills Spy, the double agent war hero who helped Japan attack Pearl Harbor. Thanks for

joining me, Ron. So we're going to be looking at Frederick Rutland, who would come out the

First World War as Rutland of Jutland, which is a fantastic name, nickname. What did he do to earn that name?

Well, he started out as probably the most famous Royal Navy pilot of World War I. He was called

Rutland of Jutland because his big accomplishment was at the Battle of Jutland. And the fact that it

rhymed was a wonderful thing in the media then as it was now.

It was a would be today.

The headlines in the London Times were just as good with the rhyme as, you know, any podcast would be today.

Right.

But what he did at the Battle of Jutland was, you know, they had this little plane, a short plane, short the manufacturer, not.

Yeah.

Not short. In the Battle of Jutland, the British was steaming to fight the German fleet.

The Germans had 99 ships.

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