240. Why High Carb is for Almost Everyone, Improving Zone 2, Wild Study on Easy Training, Honest Western States 100 Thoughts, and a Wahoo Run Treadmill Review!

Some Work, All Play

David Roche and Megan Roche

Sports, Running

4.8 • 1.4K Ratings

🗓️ 7 January 2025

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Summary

The best moment of our lives happened last week. It's not the baby. It's a social media mention from the GOAT Kilian Jornet. And we brought that celebration energy to this awesome episode!

The main study was on the types of training that leads to faster marathon times, looking at 150,000 datapoints. With findings that overlap with other studies, we can start to outline the most direct way to make running faster (and more fun).

The remainder of the episode was in our classic "No Secrets" Q+A style! Topics: what makes David think that he can compete for the win at Western States, our initial review of the Wahoo Run Treadmill, whether high carb fueling is for everyone (hint: yes, mostly), whether VERY high carb approaches might be the next frontier (hint: we hope not), improving Zone 2, heart rate zones in cross training, incorporating cross training for the first time, structuring recovery intervals on strides, our thoughts on SWAP Media expansion, the beer 2-mile record, and a beautiful Listener Corner message.

We're calling this the "You Brought It On Yourself" episode. Listen for a hilariously honest call-out near the end. We love you all! HUZZAH!

Always bringing it on ourselves,

-Megan and David

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0:00.0	Woo! Welcome to the Some Work All Play podcast. We are so happy to be with you today. Happy Tuesday. It's Tuesday. And we're back live on this Tuesday. It feels so much fun. Our date day is back. Yeah. We didn't really end up recording too many in advance of you giving birth to Ali. So it's so fun. This is like the ultimate joy now that we have two kids. I know. We've got a 10-day-old. We have two people downstairs actually watching Leo and Ollie.
0:23.5	I feel like at this point we're playing man-on-man instead of zone defense.
0:27.0	Like, let's give one person to each child because he's still so young.
0:30.0	Yeah, so young, so small, so fragile.
0:33.0	I can't help but think of dropping him all the time. But thankfully, he's a champion fueler,
0:37.9	which really, really makes me feel good. It means that we're passing down the slurp genetics.
0:43.2	This kid is designed to consume a lot of carbohydrates. He's designed to consume a lot, but not very
0:48.2	rapidly. Have you noticed that? You're the one. I'm the one breastfeeding over here. He does
0:52.0	like 75 minute breastfeeding sessions. And I'm like, dude, he's slurping. He's very committed to the slurp, but it's kind of a slow slurp.
0:58.0	He's just staying in zone two. Yeah. We don't, you know, in any zone five slurping. You want to
1:02.3	maintain good intensity distribution. He's just me too because he's sitting there. I'm sitting there for 75 minutes. And it's kind of nice, actually. It's like I get to sit on the couch for 75 minutes while this little baby what it feels like, but on my boobs. And I imagine it has a similar efficacy.
1:29.1	Yeah. Because, I mean, actually, I don't know the latest research on the Norma Tech boots, but I feel like you get a lot from just mean, okay, he like, he also like chomps down.
1:44.5	It's painful.
1:45.0	There's a lot that goes into breastfeeding that is not summarized within that statement.
1:49.5	But you know what?
1:50.0	Right now, after being so busy the last couple of months, it's actually kind of awesome to just
1:53.7	sit in the couch and be like, I'm here.
1:55.5	I'm stuck.
1:56.2	I'm breastfeeding and everyone can move around me. Some people call them miracles, you know, these little bundles
2:01.1	of joy babies. I call them convenient excuses. Exactly. I know. I'm like, I'm going to park my
2:06.3	butt here and have someone normatuck my boobs. Yeah, and we get to celebrate on this amazing episode.
2:10.5	We have such a fun one for you today. We're going to start by talking about the best moment of my life.
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