240. Two Years to Save The World? With Simon Stiell

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🗓️ 12 April 2024

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

In this week’s episode, Tom files an exclusive report live from London, where he's on the ground covering Simon Stiell's highly anticipated Chatham House speech, "Two Years to Save the World". Not stopping there, Tom also snags a quick interview with Simon right after the event.

Back in the studio, Christiana, Paul, and Tom dive headfirst into the heart of Simon's speech. They navigate through the maze of mixed public reactions it sparked, delving into the underlying tensions it brought to light.

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0:00.0	Hey everyone. So I'm speaking to you from streets of central London. I'm just
0:07.4	walking along Germain Street on my way to Chatham House where Simon Steele
0:12.0	Executive Secretary of UNF-TCCC, is going to be giving
0:15.2	a foreign policy speech where he is going to set out the next two years to COP30.
0:21.2	This reminds me of the years when Christina and I used to be at the UNFCCC and she would come here once a year and set out a big policy speech that determined the direction of where she saw the negotiations going.
0:32.8	We worked very hard on those speeches.
0:34.3	I'm sure there's a lot been going on behind the scenes.
0:36.2	And the timing of this one is really interesting.
0:39.2	So listeners will remember that we are a couple of months out from the negotiations in Dubai,
0:44.8	the Dubai consensus and all of the efforts that went into that.
0:50.1	And we now have this two-year critical two two-year period through to the cop in Brazil at the end of 2025,
0:56.7	with a way marker in Azerbaijan in Baca at the end of this year.
1:00.3	Now those three countries, the UAE, Azerbaijan and Brazil, have come together to form what they're calling a troika, which is the combined geopolitical diplomatic power of those three countries to try to get the world to move towards a step up in
1:15.4	nationally determined commitments by the time we meet in Brazil that can get us back
1:20.0	on track for 1.5. So the stakes for that couldn't be higher. If I'm honest what I'm hearing
1:27.0	behind the scenes is that that coordination of that group is not yet what it needs to be. There's
1:32.2	not really clear strategy, there's not consistent outreach. We're not entirely clear
1:36.6	as to whether or not the critical countries are going to be willing to step up and go further
1:41.0	in that time frame. So there's a lot at stake and the risk
1:44.0	level seem to be extremely high so at this moment for the executive secretary to
1:48.8	come to Chatham House venerable institution of international affairs in London and set out in a speech that he's calling two years to save the world,
1:56.0	it would be very interesting to see his plan, to see how specific he is,
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