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The Rest Is Politics: Leading

24: John Major: The Gulf War, Black Wednesday, and Populism (Part 2)

The Rest Is Politics: Leading

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Government, News, Politics

4.6 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 26 June 2023

⏱️ 64 minutes

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What was it like fighting New Labour? Why did Black Wednesday happen? How did Ian McKellen help bring the campaign for gay rights into Downing Street? Join Alastair and Rory as they answer all these questions with Sir John Major in the second of two episodes with the former Tory prime minister. TRIP Plus: Become a member of The Rest Is Politics Plus to support the podcast, enjoy ad-free listening to both TRIP and Leading, benefit from discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, join our Discord chatroom, and receive early access to live show tickets and Question Time episodes. Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up. Email: restispolitics@gmail.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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So welcome to the rest of this politics leading with me Alistair Campbell and with me Rory Stewart.

1:06.0

And we are part two of our interview with former British Prime Minister Sir John Major

1:13.4

and I think we should get to the point of view being Prime Minister. So tell us how it finally

1:18.6

came about. Talk us through those heady days that saw you finally making that short journey as

1:26.8

you put it in your book from Cold Harbour Lane Brixton to number 10 Downey Street.

1:30.7

Well there's not much to tell really it was fairly straightforward. After Margaret resigned,

1:36.2

it was clear Michael Hessel time was going to be a candidate. I wasn't sure whether I wish

1:40.6

to be or not people won't believe that but it is true because my daughter was just about to take

1:45.4

A levels. My son was about to take O levels and I wasn't at all sure that I didn't wish to stay

1:52.8

in my previous job for a little longer. But my parliamentary private secretary Graham Bright said,

1:59.4

I think I'm sure you have 150 votes so you can't run away.

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