Your natural tendency as a designer as a business owner your fear is to price yourself out of markets

Not knowing and understanding that that actually propels you into a better market that is huge and exists out there.

It was an instantaneous turning point

in every aspect of my business.

And lo and behold, the business, the demand

did not slow down it increased.

The I'm going to do things. They might say go eat that food or go to this country. who sometimes

we do it, and sometimes we do it,

and most of the times we don't.

But Brett, you're one of those people

where our mutual friends on the internet

said that you guys should have a conversation,

and I saw your profile,'m like let's talk but beyond

that I've not prepped for this call so I'm going to be discovering things as our audience

and listeners are going to find out about them so So first of all, Brett, please introduce yourself

and tell me a little bit about who you are and what you do.

Fair enough.

Yeah.

So my name is Brett Williams.

I really am a designer by trade.

I've been designing since 2009 so a little bit and I run a not so

fairly known agency called Design Joy which is a design subscription service.

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